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Cthulhu vs Superman! [at least one PIC]

Withiel: DALI'S ROTTWEILER

09:05 / 18.05.05

After reading the Grant Morrison interview about All-Star Superman where he mentioned Cthulhu and Superman representing some sort of unsolvable equation of icons (because Superman always wins, but Cthulhu is ineluctable and inoxerable), I started thinking about this image as, well, an image. The two ideas are so opposite in nature and fictional environment that together they're almost a sort of Yin-Yang construction. Especially considering the fact that they're both aliens that have fallen to Earth at some unspecified time in the past.
Therefore, with out further ado...
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I'm aware that this is the Conversation, but I'm not entirely sure this fits in Creation...please do move it if I'm horribly wrong.

So. Comments on the image/conceptual framework? Other opposed icons from different genres/works? Anything else tenuously related?

Mistoffelees

09:26 / 18.05.05

Nice.

Last autumn, I was bored, and made a pic of my Cthulhu and Buddy Jesus figures together (sending the photo to friends for early xmas greetings).

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But it does not really look like they are fighting, it´s his birthday after all...

Withiel: DALI'S ROTTWEILER

10:24 / 18.05.05

Apart from the essential wrongness of Cthulhu with ribbons on hir head, it looks to me as if Jesus is performing a Vader-style force grip on the Great Old One.

unheimlich manoeuvre

14:43 / 18.05.05

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An imaginative conception of beings who are morally rather like Nietzsche's Übermenschen may be found in the horror fiction of H.P. Lovecraft:

The time would be easy to know, for then mankind would have become as the Great Old Ones; free and wild and beyond good and evil, with laws and morals thrown aside and all men shouting and killing and revelling in joy.

H.P. Lovecraft "The Call of Cthulhu"

Since Lovecraft believed in an amoral universe, and knew Nietzsche, it is not hard to see where this came from.

grant

15:02 / 18.05.05

Weird -- I'd never made this connection before at all.

I've connected Superman to The Blob (alien stone landing in cornfields, hokey 1950s films), and I've connected The Blob to Lovecraft (it's basically a retelling of "The Colour Out of Space"), but never made the final connection -- Superman as Lovecraftian entity.

He's Nyarlathotep with morals, isn't he.

I bet this is exactly how Lex Luthor thinks.

Withiel: DALI'S ROTTWEILER

15:13 / 18.05.05

Haha! "Nyarlathotep with morals" is a description I never thought to hear...but it fits, especially with all the "Man of Tomorrow" imagery... Lovecraft and Nietzche is an interesting continuum to examine, as both seem to share a world-view (especially when HPL's racialism/racism is taken into account) but both seem to have rather different attitudes to this state of affairs. Perhaps the Great Old Ones, as well has being metaphors for women, sexual organs, foreigners and seafood, are to some extent an overblown disgust reaction to the concept of the Ubermensch - I can't imagine Lovecraft being too enamoured of a group with disregard for the past or academia...

unheimlich manoeuvre

08:05 / 24.10.05

Found proof of Lovecraft having read Nietzsche.

Herbert West when ridiculing his Professors.

"Age has more charity for these incomplete yet high soul characters, whose worse real vice is timidity, and who are ultimately punished by general ridicule for their intellectual sins - sins like Ptolemaism, Calvinism, anti-Darwinism, anti-Nietzscheism, and every sort of Sabbatarianism and sumptuary legislation."
from Herbert West - Reanimator.

Mistoffelees

08:27 / 24.10.05

Noticed my merry Christmas Cthulhu was gone. So, here he´s again:

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