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14:46 / 03.11.02

Years come and years go and still no new album from My Bloody Valentine. Alot of fans have probably given up on them releasing a new record, are there any fans out there who still think they will. If it's half as good as "Loveless" it will be worth the wait.

15:15 / 03.11.02

There is more chance of Mozart appearing Popstarz than MBV producing another album. The only member left is Kevin Shields. And he's one of Bobby's boys now.

My advice is: get a life. Move on. Heaps of good music waiting to be listened too. And forget Fat Kev and the Drones.

uncle retrospective

16:15 / 03.11.02

Try the new Death in Vegas album, there's around 3 MBV songs on it.
Well as close as makes no (almost) difference.

Matthew Fluxington

16:44 / 03.11.02

My Bloody Valentine haven't been a band in a very long time - if it's Kevin Shields you want, he's still active, and may even put out a record by himself in the fairly near future. But it won't be My Bloody Valentine. He might use the initials "MBV", as in "MBV Arkestra", but it won't be My Bloody Valentine. That band broke up in the early 90s.

17:04 / 03.11.02

Dammit, when is Buddy Holly gonna put out another record?

And we haven';t heard from Jimi Hendrix in a while, either.

22:50 / 03.11.02

If there was another MBV album I suspect it would be like the second Stone Roses album, overdue and overhyped for a substandard product. It would probably leave you thinking Loveless wasn't as good as you remember it to be.

Matthew Fluxington

00:13 / 04.11.02

There's been a lot of talk over the years about the hundreds of hours of material that Shields has recorded on his own (and in studios booked as My Bloody Valentine) since 1993, and the few people who have heard it (industry folks, label people footing the bill, friends of Shields) have claimed that it's brilliant. But I would expect his friends and flacks to be the first people to proclaim that it's genius.

All of the work he's released since Loveless that I've heard hasn't been mindblowing, but it's been pretty interesting. His "MBV Arkestra" song on XTRMNTR is really amazing, so I'd hope that if he makes a full length LP it'll take off from there. In a number of Primal Scream interviews, they've said that he's been working on making a solo album, but he keeps getting behind on it, and apparently he's very nervous about it all. It seems that he's as much of a drugged-out depressive as he is an obsessive perfectionist recluse.

I saw Primal Scream a few years ago, the last time they ever played in New York. Shields was on guitar the whole night, and it was a strange sort of feeling to be about ten feet away from him, it felt kind of unreal. The whole band was great, and there were three guitar players on almost every song, so it was hard to tell how good he was - he wasn't even particularly interesting to look at. It was purely conceptual, "THAT'S KEVIN SHIELDS!", as if he was a fictional character or something.

00:25 / 04.11.02

Thing is, MBV Arkestra was a left-over from Vanishing Point, making it even further back that Shields released anything worth paying attention to.

Anybody else heard the debut album, This is Your Bloody Valentine? I remember picking it up second-hand a few years ago and being surprised at how much their sound had changed in the six years between that and Loveless.

10:32 / 04.11.02

A whole stack of material used to be available here. The two pre-Isn't Anything albums and pretty much all the singles up to 1990.

And most of it was absolute tosh.

11:47 / 04.11.02

I'm still trying to figure how a band with Kevin Shields in can produce guitar-based songs that are so absolutely wank as the ones on the 'new' Primal Scream record..

04:07 / 06.11.02

I a nice bit of synchronicity I played "Come In Alone" at a goth club I DJed at on Monday. Nobody danced.

Yet people danced to Ride, so it wasn't all bad.

14:14 / 06.11.02

The fools!

A confederacy of radges

14:47 / 06.11.02

wow- I'd have danced to come in alone, definitely, though I wouldn't have been looking at my shoes. Funny that in the UK, about 11 years ago, all that slighly drifty, floaty guitar music was all bracketed under the 'shoegazer' genre by the music press, presupposing some distinct subculture of floppy-fringed youths who all dressed a bit like Brian from Ride and danced by kind of letting their head flop limply around their shoulders

19:39 / 16.01.07

Yes, I realise it's delusional by now, but I do wish this could be taken seriously. It'd at least be interesting. I... think.

21:13 / 16.01.07

Sounds exciting but he also claims that he doesn't know when the album may come out, it doesn't even sound like he's recording yet!

However, I don't share Flux's attitude of it'll never happen (i seem to remember him saying something similar about the pixies reforming- never say never!) Sheilds has been relatively active over the last couple of years- not only primal scream but also Lost in translation soundtrack- so maybe- just maybe we'll see something?

it'd be pretty good just to hear

00:17 / 17.01.07

Sounds exciting but he also claims that he doesn't know when the album may come out, it doesn't even sound like he's recording yet!

And this is what makes it reek of an empty statement. Come on. Loveless was what, 91? And only now does this "I OWE THEE!" train of thought emerge? Tseh!

Oh, the conflict. I got all SQUEEish when reading, and yet, cepticism takes over... sniff, sniff, blah.

00:50 / 17.01.07

I'm curious as to whether he has to say there's an album on the way as he signed a big deal with Geffen post Loveless- and failed to deliver anything so far. I'm sure i heard there were problems with him officially joining Primal Scream and was only ever listed as an additional musician not allowed in videos etc.

Does anyone know where a band/ musicians would stand legally failing to deliver anything - especially if they are still making music?

16:47 / 18.01.07

that mbv arkestra mix of if they move kill 'em is just the best thing primal scream have done imo but yes, very old now

kevin sheilds did some work with patti smith live last year and i hear a live lp is due from that (called the Coral Sea), i would love a reunion, maybe as part of the ATP don't look back series of ands play their classic LP in it's entirety so they can do Loveless, really really loud

in fact saw them on that tour back in 1992 i think and it was awesome.

as far as i know kevin shields has left the scream now to do production and solo stuff and there was a story last year that MBV were back in the studio finishing the LP that became the Glider ep to release as part of an MBV box setbut you know...don't hold your breath.

16:53 / 18.01.07

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/music/a41724/my-bloody-valentine-to-make-third-lp.html

this is largely incomprehensible but the full article might not be

18:43 / 18.01.07

I heard yesterday from a very reliable source that Mr Shields is currently re-mastering his back catalogue- and as you'd expect he's being very precise about it - but he's definitely working and in My Bloody Valentine Land as we speak- so expect a delux box editions with (hopefully) extra bits! My copy of Loveless is on Vinyl but this sounds like an upgrade worth waiting for.

The same source also told me that a certain ms Smith had told him to get his act together when working with her on meltdown- which also seems to be working. Lets keep our fingers crossed for that final album- a Loveless don't look back would also be amazing.

00:35 / 19.01.07

God knows, "Isn't Anything" could sure do with a remaster.

I think there was a government-appointed mean man who went around studios in the '80s making sure that otherwise great records were mixed far too quietly.

lord nuneaton savage

11:06 / 19.01.07

And then pressed on 80s flexi-vinyl.

11:56 / 19.01.07

And seemingly then mastered onto CD straight from it.

Urrgh!

Anyone who's got "Isn't Anything" on Cd and reckons it's a bit dsappointing: trying turning up the volume about 400% and see if you don't just, like, die of beauty.

13:06 / 19.01.07

Any recommends on Kevin sheilds produced stuff ?

I found this website-but its the bits that are recognisably Shields that i'm interested in- I know he played some awsome guitar on Dinosaur Jr's Hand It Over album- and obviously all the Lost In Translation stuff.

Anybody wanna hook up some MP3's of interesting stuff?

I have 'Hand it Over'- but only on Vinyl, bloody annoying!

Keith, like a scientist

20:53 / 19.01.07

I have "Tunnel (Electro Convulsive Mix)" - God (remixed from The Anatomy of Addiction, Big Cat ABB79XCD, 1995)

Which is pretty interesting. MBV meets industrial-free-jazz... I could stick the mp3 up. I don't have much else that is worth checking out.

00:51 / 20.01.07

I have "Tunnel (Electro Convulsive Mix)" - God (remixed from The Anatomy of Addiction, Big Cat ABB79XCD, 1995)

Which is pretty interesting. MBV meets industrial-free-jazz...

Yeah, guitar-noise as wailing underwater beast rather than shining wall. Nicely visceral in the way it lurks beneath a very constant, clear beat. Still, not a very strong tune, more a nice sounding one with some better moments; it does wander about without much of a point a bit too much.

On the engulfing wave of noise side, do the MBVappreciators here know the instrumental "2"? It was for some project or other, to serve as a soundtrack. A spiky Brian Eno tune, sort of, if I remember the feeling properly (the melody itself escapes me); a simple and fragile density. Nicely ambient. It and To Here Knows When always left me curious as to how the MBV sound could expand into something simpler and more piercing, as abrasive ambient tunes with an orchestral quality.

Is this gonna turn into a "explore the obscurities, shoegeek!" deal?

Oh, Copey, I might dig around and maybe put a list here or send it through PM of the more obscure stuff I might find, but I'm convinced I might have erased all I had. Anyway, that link and to here knows web will guide you on yer way.

10:08 / 16.11.07

http://www.seetickets.com/see/index.html

tickets now on sale true believers.

suspect the sheilds may well curate an ATP weekend next year as well.

10:37 / 16.11.07

Well, that sold out in seconds and I failed to get any tickets... Anyone got a spare for the Roundhouse...?

I'd been listening to MBV loads lately, and just read that 33 1/3 book about Loveless, so my head was all abuzz when I saw the good news yesterday. Surely they'll add more dates/release more tickets...? Grr, I must see them!

11:08 / 16.11.07

Hey Rizla, concerning the mastering issue, i've recently worked with those guys :
Chicago Mastering Service
and they have a really interesting view on the loudness of today's mastering process which considerably changed my opinion on the subject!

I am therefore not sure about an MBV remaster...

foot long subbacultcha

11:15 / 16.11.07

Argh - I got completely sidelined by this one. Less than a day's notice!? It would be odd if they didn't announce more London shows.

11:28 / 16.11.07

Well after all that... Managed to get through to the Roundhouse and score a pair of tickets. Am happy now. Apparently there will be two more nights announced soon...

foot long subbacultcha

12:42 / 16.11.07

Score! I managed to get a couple of seated tickets.

14:03 / 16.11.07

Extra dates are up now, going fast as well. I'm off to them all...

16:54 / 16.11.07

3 nights at the roundhouse selling out in 15 minutes is considerable. are MBV more well liked than they ever were? i can see the influence on stuff like mogwai and a lot of noise bands but all that is still minority interest music surely?

anyhow, still reckon shelds might curate an all tomorrows parties event next year for more noise based fun.

Mon Oncle Ignatius

19:30 / 16.11.07

There are still standing and seated circle tickets available direct from the Roundhouse.

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