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Northern Lights/ The Golden Compass - The Film

 
  

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Fly Beezy (War Minister)
20:01 / 09.12.07
Yes, they shouldn't put the bear on the poster, he's irrelevant.

GET OFF THE CRACKPIPE DAYTRIPPER YOU CRACKHEAD.
 
 
ziparrow's prismoon champaign
20:37 / 09.12.07
MOST AWESOME phallic light sabre

Oh yeah right, like your parts don't immediatly start humming the moment the humming vibration ensues...

VVVVVBBBBBBBRRRRRRRRZZZZZZZZZMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM!

ring

Oh yeah right, like your sphincter doesn't immediatly shuts tight (to the point a needle couldn't pass) the moment the gentle-eyed hobbit is chased or when the dark ghosts says in mordor-speak "I smell ass!"...

Yeah right.

I'm rather curious to see how these types of films (based on books that have a rather vague cult following in other places) go over here. I don't remember something like LotR having much space in geek culture here before the film (though afterwards, it seemed to blow up).
 
 
Hydra vs Leviathan
02:10 / 10.12.07
Well, if this review is anything to go by, i don't think i'll bother watching it...
 
 
The Natural Way
10:12 / 10.12.07
Okay, I'm prepared to accept that my reading of Pullman's books might be, err, a little subjective, but that guy up there's repeating me almost word for word re the movie. Get it straight, compass fans, this isn't a good adaptation: I said it, my g/f said it and now PZ MYERS HAS SAID IT.
 
 
El Directo
12:35 / 10.12.07
I don't think your criticisms of the books are odd at all Pigs, I felt almost exactly the same when I read them. I guess the lynchpin that held it all together was Pullman's ranting preachiness, but if you notice that it doesn't really stand up to argument then the rest starts to unravel too.
 
 
Deculture Decedent
16:43 / 10.12.07
Yes, they shouldn't put the bear on the poster, he's irrelevant.

I mean, of course, the billboard's that are nothing but the bear. Which are, while perhaps not irrelevant, very very misleading. It's like putting up an Lion, The Witch, and the Wardrobe billboard of nothing but Mr. Tumnus, except there isn't nearly that level of familiarity amongst a general audience. And then making sure it's the most common advertisement for the film.

And I'm sorry I stole your crackpipe, On Final/Flyboy. I didn't realize you'd go into withdrawals that quickly.
 
 
Fly Beezy (War Minister)
16:45 / 10.12.07
I don't understand how they're misleading. A billboard, by convention, doesn't have to incorporate every single element of a film. I don't understand why I'm having to explain this.
 
 
Deculture Decedent
17:25 / 10.12.07
On Final, I agree they don't have to incorporate every element, but I have yet to see anyone understand what the film/story's about based on that particular ad, which is incredibly present everywhere. So (a) it's not doing the job of telling people what this film's like, and (b) it's turning off a number of people which may otherwise be a major part of the film's audience. On the other hand, it's not a bad looking ad and the detriment is only it's placement and prevalence, being misleading in atmosphere and narrative significance by focus and exclusion.

I'm not joking when I say a high number of people in LA (and other parts of the U.S.) think it's all about polar bears in armor smacking each other about and a barbarian flick. Maybe it's because it's such a prevalent ad, maybe it's because television ads of a more explicatory nature are being skipped over intensely by the power of TiVo, but yes, this is only a bother if you think it's not actually meant to be a film/story about barbarians on bears beating each other up (which isn't to say, in some ways, that isn't in there).

Advertisements that directly intrigue a market unlikely to be satisfied or ultimately interested in the product once it has been provided, while alienating the audience most likely to be satisfied and return customers, are, by nature, sort of failures. I don't know why I should have to explain this, either.
 
 
A Haus of Minions
17:26 / 10.12.07
I don't want to steal anyone's "what on Earth are you talking about" fire, but I'm a bit confused by Ziparrow, above - much more so than by DD.

But on the bear - hoom. I'd imsagine that you'd go for the most visually striking major elements for the ad campaign even if there wer not the dominant element of the film in terms of screen time - so, Tiilda Swinton got more play in the posters for Lion, Witch, Wardrobe than the beavers, even though the beavers probably got more lines, and more than Peter even though Peter is a more important character. When the children were portrayed in the posters, they were generally portrayed in armour, even though they spend most of the film not in armour, again for marketing reasons.

Iorek Byrnison is a big part of the book, at least - is he a more minor character in the film? Would one be disappointed, having paid the money to see a film involving a huge armoured bear, with the film that one ultimately watches?

HvL:

Hmmm. I'm really not seeing Daniel Craig as Lord Asriel. Not sure who i *would* cast for him, however, except possibly Christopher Lee about 30 years ago

I just heard on Kermode that Jason Isaacs was originally lined up to play Asriel. I can see that working very well...
 
 
Boboss
17:41 / 10.12.07
Pigs tells me that Iorek gets very little screentime in the film.
 
 
El Directo
18:43 / 10.12.07
Singling out Iorek for getting very little screentime seems a little unfair. No one really gets a chance to be in it for more than a few minutes. As I say, fans better hope that there's an extended cut.
 
 
Hydra vs Leviathan
03:25 / 12.12.07
Coincidence or viral ad?
 
 
sleazenation
20:24 / 13.01.08
Finally saw this.

II had low expectations based on the trailers I'd seen, but was pleasantly surprised. Child star Dakota didn't stand out like a sore thumb as i feared she would, and none of the leads really felt as if they were too far outside of those in the book. Fader Corum was a fair bit younger than I imagined. But yeah - I enjoyed it and was swept up in the narrative. Never bored.
 
 
El Directo
00:59 / 14.01.08
Child star Dakota didn't stand out like a sore thumb as i feared she would

Disgusting ageism. I notice that in the Space Cowboys thread you didn't refer to The Pale Rider as *elderly icon Clint Eastwood* or The Only Man Who Will Ever Do Screen Justice to Two-Face as *geriatric legend Tommy Lee Jones.* What's up with the hatred and singling out of children, sleaze? What's up with that?

Barbelith hasn't been the same since Flyboy scrambled his password at Christmas.
 
 
Kali is proud of her country
(prev. Always Pro Neil Gaiman Kali)
03:59 / 17.07.08
Just watched this and was very disappointed. But heed this!, my fair Barbelith: I honestly think if I had read the books, then I would have been much more engaged. I wanted to care, I wanted to know, I wanted to be. But watching it now, it left me cold.

Until, of course, the kick-ass armoured polar bears appeared.
 
  

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