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Welsh Punk Not Dead? (MANICS)

 
  

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Frankie Boyle
00:56 / 17.12.02
I didn't catch any of the broadcast, but I did catch them on TV at a Q Magazine double header with the Stereophonics at the Scala. That says about all you need to know, sadly.

They've done some great live stuff in recent years. Kevin Carter has always been great with the trumpet solo on guitar, but somehow has never been better than when it was played with a local musician during the Cuba gig. And Of Walking Abortion on the Millenium video was fucking awesome.

Why do they have that shitty keyboard player, though? He makes them sound really cheesy live, and their sound would be a lot more raw and honest without him.
 
 
Tryphena Absent
01:06 / 17.12.02
It's ok, New Order's come to save me from them, hurrah!
 
 
Brigade du jour
01:09 / 17.12.02
I hate and love to say this, but the Manics are splitting up after this tour you know.

By the way, Maominstoat, I saw the Manics the other night and they played Faster and Revol. And they played Archives Of Pain at Reading last year. Too cool for school.
 
 
Frankie Boyle
01:57 / 17.12.02
I can't see anything online to confirm your last post besides stuff that's a couple of years old, TFHTB. They've recently spoken about their direction for the next record, and I can't find anything more recent which contradicts the Springsteen stuff.
 
 
Brigade du jour
02:11 / 17.12.02
No no, this is just a theory of my own based on no actual outside rumour or other information. Call it a hunch, woman's intuition, whatever.

Maybe in twenty years' time there'll be a multi-million-budget ITV special mini-series a la Beatles Anthology recalling this as their 'mellow' period.
 
 
Brigade du jour
02:25 / 17.12.02
Try and top this iconic depiction of Sadness - I actually know all the lyrics to Yes off The Holy Bible. And I didn't sit down and learn them, this is from singing them over and over again like a big baby.

In fact, I seem to recall JDB describing this album (when it had just been released) as something you wouldn't listen to very often, but would feel comfortable knowing it was in your collection. How's that for promotion?

I wholeheartedly disagree - The Holy Bible is an album I've listened to many times, and I find that in a perverse way it cheers me up.
 
 
Frankie Boyle
02:56 / 17.12.02
LOL. I'm exactly the same on all points, mate.
 
 
Brigade du jour
03:35 / 17.12.02
Wow. Total harmony of opinion. How dull. But nice though.

Somebody interrupt this with a cry of 'but the Manics are a bag of shit' or something, go on.
 
 
Our Lady of The Two Towers
12:42 / 17.12.02
But the Manics ARE a bag of shit! (These days)
 
 
Brigade du jour
03:21 / 05.01.03
Hey I just reminded myself - Faster has got one of the best guitar solos ever.
 
 
Not Here Still
18:31 / 05.07.03
Another 'not Richey' body discovery, just before the release of the B sides album.

Cynical, moi?
 
 
Not Here Still
19:28 / 05.07.03
The actual story about the discovery of the body -the above post was a cock-up, though it seems to have sparked new threads, so all is well...
 
 
The Last Telephone
21:30 / 05.07.03
When I became confused between the video intros to 'So why so sad' and J-Lo's 'Love don't cost a thing' I knew that was it.
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
11:15 / 07.07.03
Comments like that just prove you were never on the right side in the first place, Telephone. The Manics were huge Kylie fans, remember? If they'd become a shiny pop band, that would have been great: instead, they became a conventional pseudo-alternative rock band. Yuck.
 
 
trouble at bill
15:06 / 26.11.08
Nearly seven years after this thread was begun, with Ritchie now 'officially dead' (for what that's worth), finally the obituaries appear. Here is the Guardian newspaper's.
 
 
jamesPD
16:46 / 26.11.08
Yeah, not so surprising really. I think Richey's family were allowed to have him declared legally dead some time ago (and hence also be entitled to his estate), but they refused to sign the papers.

In other Manic related news, did anyone else read about the furore over Nicky Wire's brother's poetry book? BBC and NME links.
 
 
Pingle!Pop
17:53 / 30.11.08
... Aaaaand, seeing as this thread's been bumped, did everyone who's likely to get excited in whatever way about it get the news that they're now doing an album with the lyrics that Richey left behind? And that they're planning to make it sound like a) The Holy Bible and b) Small Black Flowers?

I'm all fangirl-squee and utterly terrified at the same time. Like, OMG!!!11! This could be the best or the worst thing ever recorded. And despite everything, there's still some small part of me that believes that the former is actually possible.
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
19:58 / 30.11.08
wut

That could be awesome!

Though having now heard the US mix of The Holy Bible, which Bradfield apparently preferred... hmm... could go either way.
 
 
Pingle!Pop
00:40 / 01.12.08
Yeah, I think I've only heard the US mix once, and recall being disappointed. Have you heard the Canadian mix, though? Seriously, it is *even better than the 'original'*. I can try to zshare or whatever it if you'd like.
 
 
Pingle!Pop
00:49 / 01.12.08
... Wait, Wikipedia and a couple of other places seem to report that the US mix and the Canadian mix (the former never having been released) are the same. I know I've only heard the US mix once, but that's surely not right; the US one was shiny, whereas the Canadian one was even nastier...
 
 
trouble at bill
12:05 / 08.05.09
There's an interesting article about the new 'Richy' album here:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2009/may/08/manic-street-preachers

Out on May 18th, apparently, but some UK supermarkets already refusing to stock it due to grizzly cover!
 
 
Jack Fear
18:48 / 10.05.09


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(Compare and contrast.)
 
 
Alex's Grandma
13:20 / 11.05.09
If the bear had a shaved, pale and tattooed front paw, and if it was smoking an Embassy, while gazing, puzzedly, at a trail of anti-depressants leading to who knows where, that wouldn't be a bad cover. It could be thinking about Dylan Thomas for good measure.

It's been suggested, by wiser souls than I (the artist formerly known as Flyboy though, so not necessarily that much wiser) that in the face of total artistic bankruptcy, this is the MSP's final roll of the dice.

Of course, that's probably true, but I don't know. It's not as if Richey actually played anything apart from Sonic The Hedgehog on 'The Holy Bible'. I'm perhaps over-invested in the idea that the last fifteen years just didn't happen (parroting Richey, you should kill yourself when you're sixty, I think) but I'm happy enough to believe that, for as long as it takes for the new album to play out, anyway, it was all a strange dream. No Blair years, no mobile phones. When I was sixty, I had the whole world ahead of me.

Whether this album sells or not probably depends on the number of people who feel, or not, just the same as what I do.
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
02:17 / 26.05.09
It's no Holy Bible, but it's the best thing they've done since, imho.

Albini was behind the desk, so the guitars all sound suitably GRRRRRRRR.

And the lyrics clearly don't fit the music. I think, more than Richey's disappearance, where it all went wrong for the Manics was when they started writing the two in tandem.

It's... it's good. It's not awesome, but it's not shit either, and that's... that's a result, really.
 
  

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