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Watchmen Movie: Your dream cast.

 
  

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z3r0
13:37 / 20.07.01
Can't help it: when I'm re-re-re-reading the book, I imagine which actors would be the best ones for a big screen adaptation. My little list:
Ozymandias - Robert Redford (too bad he's too old now)
Comedian - Tom Selleck
Nite Owl - A younger Robert DeNiro, perhaps?
Rorschach - Mickey Rourke?
Dr. Manhattan - Any bald blue guy would do.

What is your dream cast?
 
 
grant
15:01 / 20.07.01
Tom Selleck? As a vicious, sociopathic rapist?
And DeNiro as a shy mechanical genius??
Pish and tosh!

Old Nite Owl: Redford

New Nite Owl: Michael Keaton... maybe. Maybe Ed Norton.

Old Silk Spectre: Gena Rowlands. Maybe Faye Dunaway.

New Silk spectre: Any of the female players on "Friends." OK, maybe not Jennifer Aniston.

Ozymandias: I wanna say Jude Law.

Comedian: Chazz Palminteri.

Dr. Manhattan: Matthew McConaughey.

Rorshach: this is tricky -- there aren't that many "fascinatingly ugly" actors in Hollywood. Might be interesting using Steven Dorfmann (Cecil B Demented), although he might be too young. John Malkovich is a little too -- I dunno, subtly creepy, non-brutal. Someone halfway between them, maybe? Depends on how old you want to make the contemporary heroes. Benicio Del Toro might be nice.

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z3r0
16:00 / 20.07.01
I was going for the looks on Tom Selleck, ya know? But... Chazz Palminteri? Wheres the square chin???
And Jude law... a little too young...
you could call rosie odonnel to be the alien thing in the end, too.
 
 
Dee Vapr
16:02 / 20.07.01
Rorshach: Eric Stoltz. Believe me. It would work.
 
 
Ellis
16:09 / 20.07.01
Do we really need two threads dedicated to this?
 
 
The Strobe
16:09 / 20.07.01
Possibly getting on a bit... but Brad Pitt wouldn't do a bad Rorschach. Eric Stoltz is a _good_ idea though. Even if he is a little b-movie ish.
 
 
Jack Fear
16:18 / 20.07.01
I've gotta say, I like Widgett's picks on this one. Go to
http://www.needcoffee.com/html/dreamcasts.html

...and scroll down.

Too bad about Jack Lemmon, though.

Mind you, I don't think much of the Invisibles dreamcast on the site, but let's not open that can of worms...
 
 
z3r0
16:45 / 20.07.01
i didn't wanted the comics fanboys to miss this one, i'm too much considerate
 
 
Time, Please!
(prev. 5 Days Clean)
16:54 / 20.07.01
quote:Originally posted by Jack Fear:
I've gotta say, I like Widgett's picks on this one.


Hey, two of his Authority picks are the same as mine (Blanchett = Sparks, Crowe = Midnighter). He can fuck off with that Ewan Macgregor = Doctor bollocks though - I still say the guy who played Dennis Pennis would be ideal in that role...
 
 
Stephen
16:56 / 20.07.01
Some of the watchmen cast suggestions on that site are quite good, but others on the site are really really bad. (Not wanting to open the Invisibles cast list can of worms either). The x-men one is hilarious, harry connick jnr as nightcrawler!
 
 
Dee Vapr
18:51 / 20.07.01
quoter. Manhattan - Jeff Goldblum

Absolute, abject bollocks. However, I have been having an incredibly torrid time think one up myself.

Woody Harrelson as a curveball? He did look good bald in NBK.

btw Nite Owl (new) + Philip Seymour Hoffman = perfect
 
 
tracypanzer
19:07 / 20.07.01
Steve Buscemi as Rorshach? David Duchnovy as Dr Manhattan?
 
 
Jack Fear
19:08 / 20.07.01
I think the idea is to make the good Doctor a computer-generated special effect--for once, put CGI's inherent unreality to good effect: the Doc should be kind of creepy and jarring--and use Goldblum for the voice. In his dry, abstarcted Jurassic Park mode, I can hear it very well.
 
 
E. Randy Dupre
19:20 / 20.07.01
I couldn't agree less with the choice of Goldblum. I always read Doc Manhattan as having a boring, everyman voice, making the loss of humanity in his acts even more noticeable.

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ynh
21:13 / 20.07.01
Nite Owl - James Spader

Rorshach - (that guy who played Morgause's husband in Mists of Avalon)

I agree with Jack, tho, the Doc must be CGI
 
 
rizla mission
21:42 / 20.07.01
Yes. Some dork painted blue wouldn't really cut the mustard would it..
 
 
Red Cross Iodized Salt
22:18 / 20.07.01
Rorschach should be played by David Caruso

See?




Anyway, hasn't Terry Gilliam been trying to get Watchmen made into a mini-series for years?
 
 
E. Randy Dupre
22:50 / 20.07.01
That's a genius bit of casting.

I remember reading a feature about the soon to be released Watchmen movie, directed by Gilliam, back in 1988. What happened?
 
 
Dee Vapr
22:59 / 20.07.01
Gilliam made Baron Munchasen.

Consequentially, his Hollywood stuck plumetted just at the wrong time. I think he's been trying to recover from rep of that film (which I actually quite liked) since.
hence a project on the scale of Watchmen (which at the time would have required a massive effects budget) wasn't on the cards.

damn
 
 
Harry Christmas
12:08 / 21.07.01
Rorschach?



[ 21-07-2001: Message edited by: Harry Christmas ]
 
 
Mazarine
12:29 / 21.07.01
quote:Originally posted by Dee Vapr:
Gilliam made Baron Munchasen.

Consequentially, his Hollywood stuck plumetted just at the wrong time. I think he's been trying to recover from rep of that film (which I actually quite liked) since.


I loved Baron M too, but if I remember right, The 90s Book of Lists said it was the second greatest box-office loser ever. Of course, I think that was pre-waterworld. How did Twelve Monkies do, box office-wise?
 
 
Templar
12:29 / 21.07.01
Gilliam wants to do Watchmen, but won't do it unless he's given permission to make a 6 hour film, because he wants to make sure that he does it justice.

So well done him.

Hopefully he's got an option on it so no fool can churn out a 2-hour monstrosity.

Maybe with the release (and success?) of The Lord of the Rings triology, he might get to make Watchmen as a trilogy. That is, assuming that Jackson didn't rewrite LOR in order to make each "episode" conform to the numbingly tedious hollywood screenwriting model - the $%&**"£ "Hero's Journey."

12 Monkeys did pretty well at the box office, and performed well on video as well. Gilliam seems to move like this, doing one "art" film and one "commercial" film.

I think Leaving Los Vegas flopped, so expect a "commercial" film soon...
 
 
grant
12:29 / 21.07.01
quote:Originally posted by E Randy Donttouchthatdial:
I couldn't agree less with the choice of Goldblum. I always read Doc Manhattan as having a boring, everyman voice, making the loss of humanity in his acts even more noticeable.



The Jeff Goldblum choice is pretty clearly simply due to his role in The Fly; it's basically the same character arc.
I always pictured his voice as Everymannish, but because he was an American son of a German immigrant.

I thought of Steve Buscemi, but ya gotta realize most of the time, you're just hearing a voice from behind the mask, and that voice just ain't right. And the site's William H. Macy is just outta left field - he's got the right hair and the right height, almost, but he's nowhere near psycho-muscular enough.
Stacy Keach as Comedian was one I was thinking of, but wanted something more Chazz-like. Good point on the chin, though. Keach it is...


James Wood would make an excellent Rorshach, yeah. "I'm not locked in here with you! You're locked in here with ME!"

David Caruso is a pretty face. I have a personal reaction against him; my fledgling career as a celebrity journalist came plummeting to a halt after I interviewed him to something well below the LA producer's standard. Hated it.

Gilliam on Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas: he was assigned to it after the studio yanked Alex Cox off it. I think box office-wise it bombed.
 
 
bio k9
12:29 / 21.07.01
Muppets damnit, use muppets.

Rorschach: Gonzo
Comedian: Fozzie
Dr. Manhattan: Kirmit
Ozmandias: Big Bird
Silk Spectre: Ms. Piggy
Nite Owl: Grover
 
 
rizla mission
17:35 / 21.07.01
quote:Originally posted by Templar:
I think Leaving Los Vegas flopped, so expect a "commercial" film soon...


news just in:
Gilliam's 'The Man Who Killed Don Quixote' - billed as a triumph of European/American, Arthouse/Hollywood film making cooperation - fucked up big time. Massive debts, shooting abandoned.

So it seems he's done another Munchasen.
 
 
Templar
12:12 / 23.07.01
Poo.

There goes that theory.
 
 
z3r0
13:30 / 23.07.01
Believe me, Mickey Rourke would make a fine Rorschach, he's ugly enough; he's not a good actor, but then again his face would be covered most of the time - and when not, what the heck, Kovacks is expressionless anyway, Rourke would only have to try not to blink, 'cos Kovacks never seemed to blink.
 
 
yawn - thing's buddy
14:03 / 23.07.01
rorshach is john hurt twenty years ago.

or gary oldman now.
 
 
grant
17:51 / 23.07.01
new nite owl:


doctor manhattan:


new silk spectre:


rorschach:


ozymandias:


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grant
18:15 / 23.07.01
Supporting cast:

comedian:


old nite owl:
(shermy, the one in the middle)

old silk spectre:



moloch:



psychiatrist:


newsstand owner:


kid reading comic:


conservative newsletter editor:


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levon
03:35 / 24.07.01
William H. Macy would be my pick for Rorschach. I'm sick of him playing passive losers.
 
 
Blank Faced Avatar
16:52 / 24.07.01
A lotta these ideas are way past their sell-by dates - Johnny used to play cast the watchmen in the 80's too, and these are the same people, too old, too late. Dintcha always dream of making it for 1999? When the doomsday clock still had some bite as an image.
So of course Redford/Ozzy, once upon a time. Always had DeNiro for Blake - you know the old bastard'd put on 80lbs of muscle for the part & then have plastic surgery & play the young Comedian at the end of the shoot. And once, James Woods could've been Kovacs. But not any more. Not after the Vampires.. oh well, maybe..
And you used to figure, Dan Ackroyd is Dan Dreiberg - the whole syndrome of the 'talented', athletically built youth who's a paunchy lost-it, but you can still see that same guy looking out..
The doc has to be CGI, but then Osterman has to be really flash cgi too.
Laurie is the tough one - always was. Any Friends girl indeed.
John Hurt can be in the movie any age as Moloch.

But what about a real new cast?

Dreiberg - The Rock
Rohrshach - Mankind
Blake - Jesse 'The Governor' Ventura
Doctor Manhattan - Stone Cold Steve Austin
Veidt - Vince McMahon
Laurie - Lita
Hooded Justice - Kane
Big Figure - Taka Michinoku
Moloch - HHH

Now, y'see, that's how you cast a movie.
 
 
Harry Christmas
22:18 / 24.07.01


Dr Manhattan
 
 
Tom Coates
12:07 / 25.07.01
Ah - you just want to see him naked. And blue. And completely lacking in hair. Actually, me too! Excellent casting...
 
 
Harry Christmas
01:58 / 26.07.01
Ehm, that's actually true.
 
  

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