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14:40 / 13.03.02

Don't you just love it? best thing the beeb do, i reckon. anyway, I had it on in the company car just now, listening to a panel quiz show about historical figures. One of the questions was "From which book by which author did 60s supergroup [their phrasing] The Doors take their name?". The answer given being, of course, Aldous Huxley's "The Doors of Perception". Thing is, I'm sure I once read in Invisible Ink that this was a popular misconception. Can anyone help me out here?

Also, one of the families on "The Archers" was having trouble with an unruly, overenthusiastic goat called Persephone. No relation to *our* Persephone, I'm sure.

I'm back in the office now, much to my chagrin, as this afternoon they're broadcasting a program on the Golden ratio, followed later by a psychological examination of why we procrastinate.

14:46 / 13.03.02

Get a radio for your office - ours is on Classic FM at the moment, as it stops me from killing students.

However, I'm indebted to you for the golden ratio stuff, as I've recently been introduced to the related subject of Fibonacci numbers and wish to hear more. Soothe my ears, dear old 4...

Truly a radio station one can take to bed and cuddle without any preconceptions.

A word to the wise though - if RayFengsforthememory sees the words 'Radio 4' and 'nonsense' together, there could be trouble.

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14:52 / 13.03.02

of course streaming audio allows free radio choice for all who have net access at work...[/LIST]

Fengs for the Memory

14:54 / 13.03.02

You swine. I aged before my years after early exposure to Radio4. The Archers is like my own private village, where i can be a farmer and have an affair with a sexy irish translater called Shivorn (iknow but you get the picture). They have ferret called Noah because there was a flood obviously. My favourite place in the world is Penny-Haset. God I love Mrs Snell and her clipped vowels.

15:10 / 13.03.02

William Blake was the first one to use the phrase "doors of perception", I think Huxley borrowed it from him... maybe that's the 'misconception'? Books on The Doors usually say that one of the band members had read Huxley's essay, which seems likely enough. Don't recall if it was Jim or Ray tho'.

15:46 / 13.03.02

Ray, I'm feeling you. That disgusting but somehow comforting feeling of encouraging the onset of middle age. Remarking that the panellists on "Just a Minute" are terribly witty while eating avocado on toast for breakfast on Saturday. I'll know I'm doomed when "Gardener's Question Time" stops being an irritant.

Sleaze - thanks for the tip, but unfortunately my computer doesn't have any speakers. Which is pretty lame when you consider that I work for an IT support company with hundreds of thousands of pounds worth of stock sitting upstairs.

Guess I'll have to rummage through my back issues to solve my query. Ghod, what a chore that'll be.

15:52 / 13.03.02

[double post]

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15:55 / 13.03.02

[fucking hell - triple post!]

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Fengs for the Memory

16:05 / 13.03.02

Lentil - any more of this triple post hilarity and you will be a guest on 'Just a Minute'. Be careful now.

16:27 / 13.03.02

Mornington Crescent.

The Planet of Sound

16:29 / 13.03.02

It was indeed Blake who coined the term 'doors of perception' ('if the doors of perception were cleansed, everything would seem as it truly is, infinite' probable misquote) and it was quoted by Huxley as the title of his admirably mescaline drenched book. I always thought it was one of Blake's oddest turns, tygers burning bright notwithstanding, as surely it should be 'windows' of perception? Which adds a certain lysergic charm to George Formby's 'When I'm Cleaning Windows'.

Aah, Fibonacci; Italian monk, who first came up with his number sequences when observing the prodigious powers of rabbits to multiply. Not often do you get that maths/sex cross-over, but when it happens, man, it's beautiful.

16:35 / 13.03.02

Sax, you went too soon. You had to wait another three posts until you could get to Mornington Crescent, and that was only if someone used the word 'fluff'.

Unless you're playing the Toronto rules, of course, in which case the move is perfectly acceptable. Provided you're wearing light-coloured slacks.

16:43 / 13.03.02

Sir, I refer you to the "Wigan Precedent of 1996" when it was established that a combination of light slacksand slip-on shoes rendered such a "Toronto Rules" move especially valid and in need of no explanation on a Wednesday.

16:49 / 13.03.02

Well, I'm in Germany for the week for work and then going to France after this - and I actually found myself listening to the Archers on Monday night and feeling distressed that I'd miss what happened next. Mild distress, but nevertheless it's a bad sign.

16:56 / 13.03.02

Wow. High powered tech journo, or what? Better than a conference in Manchester, anyway...

And I'd just like to add that the Today programme absolutely rules. Completely. No other way to begin the day.

(Although it's always distressing to be driving home to the peal of bells of the PM programme at 6pm when you've been in since eight, as is likely to happen today...)

17:17 / 13.03.02

quote:Originally posted by Ray Fengsforthememory:
Lentil - any more of this triple post hilarity and you will be a guest on 'Just a Minute'. Be careful now.

It wasn't me! It was the board! Anyway I'd be better than Liza Tarbuck was the other week.

And what's with all this Mornington Crescent business? Shurely shome mishtake - isn't that "Any Questions?"?

Sax - you are so right. about Today, that is. And probably about the other thing too, but I've never experienced it. Although it is kind of depressing to be posting on Barbelith from work when you could have gone home 15 minutes ago. But I wouldn't be doing it if I didn't loooooove yoooou guuuuys!

<blech>

19:04 / 13.03.02

Radio 4. The best-media-in-the-world-ever award? Gets my vote for sure. There's just nothing like it in any format.

Have to say I can't stand Today tho'... Home Truths on the other hand I'd have to have sent to my Desert Island...

DRR... DRR... DRR...
(prev. Mordant)

19:43 / 13.03.02

Sax: I'm afraid you'll find that the Wigan Precedent is outweighed by Peason's Rule, which it would be otiose to outline fully at present but which stipulated that for the Wigan Amendment to be relevant the player must first have advanced his token into the Hubert region.

19:44 / 13.03.02

& the current serial about the lives and loves of landed lesbian gentry during the Regency! (Such Sweet Possession
By Mary Cooper, coming on in five minutes.)
Echo all the enthusing above.

I too miss the Archers when I'm abroad but it's almost worth it for the rush of compressed plot on the website...

22:13 / 13.03.02

quote: Posted by ZoCher:
but it's almost worth it for the rush of compressed plot on the website...
Where?? Really? Off to look right now....

22:26 / 13.03.02

quote:& the current serial about the lives and loves of landed lesbian gentry during the Regency! (Such Sweet Possession
By Mary Cooper, coming on in five minutes.)

ah, i wondered what that was called

it's interminable, seems to have been going on for my entire life, but somehow strangely absorbing. Like watching snooker.

23:18 / 13.03.02

I am so impressed that (some of the) People of the 'Lith would even know the names of Joe Grundy's ferrets. Ganesh makes fun of me but I know he's a closet Lynda Snell fan.

I cried when Joe killed his old ferrets (Peggy and Grant) with the hammer. God, I must be drunk and confessional again...

DRR... DRR... DRR...
(prev. Mordant)

23:51 / 13.03.02

Okay, as a non-Archerous R4 listener I reckon you made that up.

%Peggy and Grant. Yeah, right.%

12:10 / 14.03.02

The Archers operates on many levels. It is the only soap where people make reference to other soaps.

I was also quite fond of Baby Spice, the Grundy's Charolais, which is about to make a Sharon Watts type return to glory.

And I promise to get out more...

12:10 / 14.03.02

Stop right there, ZoCher! Repetition of 'soap'. Over to Wendy Richards, with twenty - seven seconds left on the clock on the subject of "The Archers"......

anyway:
quote:Originally posted by ZoCher:

but it's almost worth it for the rush of compressed plot on the website...

Apparently (never checked this out myself) they archive at least the last month's worth as audio files on the site, so you can actually hear the whole thing from anywhere.

12:10 / 14.03.02

Indeed you can - I checked it out last night. You can also discuss the plot with other listeners but even I wasn't that sad. Yet. I wonder if there's a German equivalent to the Archers?

12:10 / 14.03.02

"Der Archers" - eine einfache Erzählung von Land Leuten

12:10 / 14.03.02

Radio 4 - it's my my secret vice.
Anyone know where i can get a copy of 'sailing by'
- forget sleepiung pills - listen to the shipping forecast - it's the best thing ever broadcast. wonder if you can OD on the shipping forecast.

Stoatie. Stoatie? STOATIE.
(prev. Stoatie's power level is >9000)

12:10 / 14.03.02

Shipping Forecast fucking rocks. No debate- no question. It just DOES.
Still addicted to the Archers- even SINCE the time I was horrified when David & Ruth (both of whom I liked) were really pissed off because the Countryside Alliance march (in defence of foxhunting, for anyone who doesn't listen to the Archers but has still been arsed to read this far through the thread) had been cancelled due to foot and mouth.
(On a side note- I feel really old now. When I was a kid, my mum was - and probably still is- addicted to the Archers. And I hated it. Now I'm addicted. And I'm also quite horrified by the amount of illicit shagging that goes on in Ambridge. I may change my name to "disgusted Stoat" and move to Tunbridge Wells...)
BUT... I am forever blessed. I HEARD the legendary moment last year when someone said "cunt" on Front Row. (This is like 7:30 pm, for fuck's sake.) There was even a Miles Kingston column about it in the Independent Review a couple of days later.
And yes, there really was a few seconds of embarrassed silence, followed by- "ahh... we don't usually say that word on Channel Four". I can die happy.

13:02 / 14.03.02

Because the Shipping Forecast is like, proper weather, you know? When you hear 'gale warning', there are people out there who are BRICKING IT. At the mercy of the elements, the untamed power of the wind and waves.... ahh yassss. Maybe that's why it's so comforting; an extreme version of raindrops on the window when you're a child tucked up in bed.

Also - and I can't believe I've only just remembered this - one of my mum's old schoolfriends is a scriptwriter on The Archers! You may touch my hem...

Stoatie. Stoatie? STOATIE.
(prev. Stoatie's power level is >9000)

13:10 / 14.03.02

I am SO not worthy.

It's weird- I think I listen to R4 avidly because I wear glasses. This only made sense the other day, when I was explaining why radio's better than TV. If you wear specs, then you can't just lie in bed watching TV until you fall asleep- there has to be a conscious moment when you stop, so you can take 'em off before you pass out. (And yes, I've done it the other way, many times. Expensive, no?) But the radio I can leave on constantly. (Working nights, I get most of the best R4 shit subliminally. Which probably explains that dream I had a while back where Bill Hicks became Stephen Byers. Harrowing, I tell you. Fucking harrowing.)
And the Shipping Forecast is never, ever, read better by anyone than Charlotte Green. Boy... that voice is just the best thing EVER. (Even though in real life she's probably a seven-foot guy.)

13:32 / 14.03.02

Charlotte Green has, officially, the sexiest voice on radio but even she is topped by Brian Perkins, The Terminator!

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13:55 / 14.03.02

I heard (and by heard I mean half listening to the radio while doing something else like hanging out the washing) last night on one of R4s links that Dead Ringers is being moved to BBC1 for an evening slot.

Is this true, or did my brain do a 'mis-hear'?

If so, can anyone really see this working on TV as well as it currently does on radio? Surely seeing the impressionists will destroy most of the illusion? In no way does John Culshaw even vaguely resemble Jon Peel.

Folly. Pure folly IMHO.

14:12 / 14.03.02

Disgusted Stoat of Ambridge - the shipping forecast - it really does fucking rock, glad i'm not alone on that one.
and Man Called Lentil, what you said about:

quote:Maybe that's why it's so comforting; an extreme version of raindrops on the window when you're a child tucked up in bed.

...is the best way of putting it. it's so true. There's also something about the soothing monotone voices...

14:21 / 14.03.02

But have you got used to finistaire now being called fitzroy yet?

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