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grant
21:03 / 24.01.08
Sorry, was that oblique? Earthlink is owned/founded by Scientologists, and members of the church have a different status within the company than regular employees. So, many organized internet workers = potential to do things small, diffuse network can't. (As seen in Great Firewall of China, which relies on lots of people reading web pages, not code spidering keywords.)

Oh, and second batch of dox is up.
 
 
grant
21:32 / 24.01.08
Project Chanology has their own wiki.

Section 3 makes me think these people don't really understand the nature of this beast.
 
 
Stoatie's power level is >9000
00:27 / 25.01.08
Though it was a nice opportunity to slip in a subtle "over 9000".

I like that wiki- some of the other Chanology-related sites (the chans themselves, for a start!) aren't really the kind of thing I'd like to link to from Barbelith, really, largely for reasons of taste and possible- well, almost certain- offence.
 
 
Mordant
(prev. This is *my* hole.)
00:39 / 25.01.08
"Offence" in this case signifying "having your eyes melted out of your head as the sheer revultion causes tears of pure acid to spontaneously erupt from your lachrymal glands, just as any belief you might hitherto have nurtured as to the essential goodness of humanity shatters like a Ming vase in a car-crusher." That kind of offence.
 
 
Stoatie's power level is >9000
03:46 / 25.01.08
Yeah, that kind. Hence my not going into detail or linkage- fortunately there are less wankery people also involved, so I'll stick with them.

NBC news! (Not included in "less wankery", obviously).
 
 
grant
05:39 / 25.01.08
Just so you know, that's a local NBC affiliate - it may be picked up by the national network, but really that's just a Bay Area station.

Although that makes me wonder....

Nope, nothing yet on it in the St. Pete Times Scientology page, but maybe soon. St. Petersburg is the twin city to Clearwater, where the big HQ is.
 
 
grant
06:57 / 25.01.08
The talk page on chanology wiki is kinda hysterical - the *furries* is joining in solidarity.

They've got sailors talking about ways to prank boats (like the ship L.Ron lived on in exile, still part of the Church).
 
 
aim for joviality
12:15 / 25.01.08
I'm not sure that distribution of dox will undermine the CoS internally - aren't cult-members brainwashed into believing their heads will explode if they are exposed to the sekrit knowledge without due clearance/payment?
 
 
grant
16:20 / 25.01.08
Well, that, or that they'll simply be ineffective. (And thus reading them will put the training in jeopardy, loss of money, etc.)

I have a feeling the inner secret stuff - the Xenu living in the volcano, evil alien spirit stuff - is couched in an allegorical way, anyway, so mocking it in a literal way isn't going to be properly effective.
 
 
Life Critic
16:28 / 25.01.08
I think far more dangerous to the church is public awareness being raised, awareness both of their methods and of their doctrines. In my experience, when people find out more about the ways of the church they seem to understand the hostility towards them.
I've noticed when sharing the declaration of war that people all side with 4n0nym0u5. Is that everyone else's experience too? Has anyone encountered someone defending the church?
 
 
grant
16:39 / 25.01.08
Slashdot comment from a former Scientologist - lengthy, explains terminology, ideology and some of the stuff aim for joviality mentions upthread.

Brief quote:
Auditing is essentially about being completely open and honest with yourself and your mind, and fully confronting (with the help of the auditor) any issues that where previously painful or unconscious about (this is actually the good bit about Scientology). Having out-ethics or keeping secrets is considered to be a barrier to your own spiritual growth.

THIS is the stuff I don't think the church wants people to know, although how many prospective members are savvy enough to find it - how many even read stuff on the net - is an open question.
----

I have a feeling anyone sympathetic to the church is a/ not going to be reading/caring about anything from the Pits of the Internet and b/ not going to be sharing that piece of news with anyone.
 
 
aim for joviality
16:55 / 25.01.08
Also I think release of secret documents has two other advantages:

1) Reduced recruitment intake? Interested enquirers being able to access documents for free before heavy brainwashing has ocurred might thus avoid getting caught in the spiral of payment to the cult.

2) Add to cognitive dissonance amongst cult-members? Release of secret documents without mass outbreaks of head-explosion amongst the uninitiated may help undermine the faith of cult members who are already open to questioning.

(Doh - cross-post due to not reloading thread before posting. Good points grant.)
 
 
Stoatie's power level is >9000
17:10 / 25.01.08
You're also forgetting THE LULZ.
 
 
aim for joviality
17:25 / 25.01.08
But of course!
 
 
grant
20:46 / 25.01.08
Chanology is getting rapid learning.

And sending along fun disguise ideas!

Although there's something saying 711chan is down. I'm not on 'em, so I don't know.
 
 
Mordant
(prev. This is *my* hole.)
21:26 / 25.01.08
Lisa McPherson has a posse.
 
 
aim for joviality
21:52 / 25.01.08
I was a bit perplexed about what the point or shape of the demos at branches was going to be, other than perhaps media attention. But, having seen the Worm's slogans but I from the rapid learning listed by grant above, I can totally see the point in printing some of those up big for parading around outside the cult offices.
 
 
Stoatie's power level is >9000
02:25 / 26.01.08
I have to say, it's all very odd. Recently the various strains of Anonymous have begun trapping predatory nonces online, now it's Scientology, and there's talk of them targeting Westboro Baptist too. It's almost as if they're developing some rudimentary form of social conscience. I'm scared.
 
 
grant
08:39 / 26.01.08
 
 
Mordant
(prev. This is *my* hole.)
10:37 / 26.01.08
That's a lot nicer than the one I made, grant.
 
 
grant
15:44 / 26.01.08
More the merrier.

Partyvan just, uh, exploded.
 
 
Mordant
(prev. This is *my* hole.)
16:08 / 26.01.08
I know. No surprise there. Hopefully they'll regroup, although I do wonder if the momentum can really be sustained.
 
 
Stoatie's power level is >9000
01:49 / 27.01.08
I'm still getting partyvan...?


...and I'm loving the slogan "be very wary of the 10th of February"...
 
 
Mordant
(prev. This is *my* hole.)
02:04 / 27.01.08
grant, can I hotlink to yr picture?
 
 
grant
17:41 / 27.01.08
I can neither confirm nor deny that such picture is "mine," but hotlinking is what it's there for.
 
 
Stoatie's power level is >9000
17:34 / 28.01.08
'GEEK WAR' PREDICTED!!!

It's tempting to phone the CoS and ask if they have Battletoads Earth, to be honest...
 
 
Mordant
(prev. This is *my* hole.)
17:55 / 28.01.08
Go to the office on Tottenham Court Road and ask them in person when they stop you to give you a free stress test! DO IT!!!
 
 
Stoatie's power level is >9000
18:00 / 28.01.08
I may even be in town this week, actually...


failing that, BE VERY WARY OF THE 10TH OF FEBRUARY!!! My mask's itching for an airing.

Oh, can you FEEL the lulz?
 
 
aim for joviality
18:10 / 28.01.08
This is a war which is gud entertainment, unlike the ones in which blood is shed.

I just found out about the cult's RPF - grim reading! It's the cult's internal prison system. Many links out there including hair-raising first person accounts, but here's a big essay 'Brainwashing in Scientology's RPF'.

Apparently the details of how to run the RPF are listed in documents called "Flag Order 3434 series (containing at least fifty-six separate issues)" (according to the above essay) - I'd guess those would be particularly worthwhile for making public, if they aren't already.
 
 
grant
18:58 / 28.01.08
First person accounts of the training process:

TR0 is billed as an auditor's tool for "confronting" the preclear (pc, raw meat, uninitiated mark, etc.), but it's more than that. It is a mind-control technique that opens up the mind for programming. TR 0 induces an eyes-open alpha state, building on OT-TR0. I vividly remember one of the instructions I received while learning TR0: "don't evaluate, just accept the data." Yeah, right. In other words, suspend disbelief and get programmed.

The long hours of staring at a fixed object caused hallucinations in me. I didn't realize at the time that this was a sign of hypnosis. The sensory deprivation is incredible. You're working hard on not FLUNK!ing, and having to start over. The Scientology staff coach does a good job of FLUNK!ing you for no apparent reason (at least in your own normally socialized mind), creating all sorts of uncertainty and confusion.

Perhaps it was true - thinking about what I felt and saw was causing the trouble. My "cognition" (spoon-fed to me by the Staff) was that I should stop thinking about this situation, even though it was contrary to all my social conditioning. So, I stopped evaluating. I suspended disbelief. I turned off my mind. Of course, this played right into my hypnotists' hands.

Reports of the "thousand mile stare" common to Scientologists are a direct result of this training routine.
 
 
H3ct0r L1m4
13:44 / 29.01.08
3rd 4n0n video explaining a bit more of what it is and calling people to act on F3b 1oTh in front of Sç13nt0l0gy sh0ps\thürch3s\0ff1c3s.

i'm truly fascinated with this and hope more can come out of the info war on the C0$ than just websites being taken down or defaced. how can one check whether the flow of new thürch members is slowing down or not?
 
 
Stoatie's power level is >9000
14:29 / 29.01.08
Does anyone have mad shooping skills? I really NEED to get a mocked-up Battletoads Earth cover!
 
 
Stoatie's power level is >9000
14:40 / 29.01.08
Very unlikely to be real, but it's all got a bit Deus Ex.
 
 
Stoatie's power level is >9000
14:45 / 29.01.08
And XenuTV warns/advises Anonymous...
 
 
Life Critic
15:31 / 29.01.08
The Ch4ns and all the other sites I know to be related all seem to be down. I hope they aren't fucking this up.
 
  

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