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The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya

 
 
Nocturne
01:50 / 05.12.06
Did the summary not make sense? Sorry about that, let me try to explain better. How should I introduce Haruhi to you? Oh wait, she can introduce herself!

"Normal humans don't interest me. If anyone here is an alien, a time traveler, slider, or an esper, then come find me! That is all."

She joins all the normal high school clubs, only to find them populated by humans - which automatically means they're boring. She forms her own school club, whose sole purpose is to overload the world with fun. And, unbeknownst to Haruhi, the club is peopled with time travelers, espers, and aliens. They are all investigating Haruhi for various reasons, and they all don't want her to know about their existence.

The main character is Kyon, a boring, cynical guy who gets caught up in all of this.

Oh dear. Maybe I've said too much.

Anyways, I found this series riveting. Haruhi's coersion of others, Yuki's calm acceptance of everything, and Asahina's childish screams had me laughing until my sides hurt. Only Kyon's abject sarcasm can bring reality to an otherwise surreal cast.

I started with the second episode. They aren't in chronological order anyways, so it doesn't matter. When I went to watch the first episode, I found it stupendoulsy boring. After I'd seen the series, I was better able to appreciate it.

A translation of the novels can be found over here.

Has anyone else seen this? Liked/hated it? Favourite characters? Favourite moment? Please tell!
 
 
Tuna Ghost will work for dope
04:29 / 05.12.06
And, unbeknownst to Haruhi, the club is peopled with time travelers, espers, and aliens. They are all investigating Haruhi for various reasons, and they all don't want her to know about their existence.


Oh dear. Maybe I've said too much.


yeah, maybe. If I recall correctly, that information was released over time as the story developed. But hey, at least you held back on Haruhi's little secret.

If you have any interest in anime, then you'll most likely enjoy this series (I found all 13 episodes on YouTube. They're probably still there), but I don't think it'll attract new fans by the boatload.

Even so it has a great sense of humor (I remember the baseball episode in particular was pretty funny), reasonably well-rounded and likeable characters, and a plot that is revealed at an appropriate rate. I was never really bothered with the pacing of the show, which is rare for me.
 
 
Caramel Danson
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19:33 / 09.12.06
I just started to watch this series based on the above recommendations and so far I'm finding it a lot of fun. So far I'm up to episode five (or three?). The "Running Order Squabble Fest" that Kyon and Haruhi indulge in at the close of every episode, and the consequent effect on the way one watches the series, is a wonderfully original touch.

Haruhi's ruthless exploitation of shy, innocent Mikuru Asahina-san's sex appeal to attract interest in her quest is the kind of terribly wrong but endlessly amusing element that could only work in an anime show. Kyon's narration is pure deadpan, although it would probably irritate the piss out of me as an English-language voiceover. And Yuki Nagato - she's pretty much Lain Ayanami, right?
 
 
Sailor Warrior of Love&Justice
(prev. Damn, it's Pacific State again)
21:48 / 09.12.06
Crunchy Roll has this in it's entirety.

I've just watched the first episode of this and I'm in love. About 2 minutes in I gave up completely on trying to understand it and just sat back giggling like a maniac.

Please tell me it's like that all the way through.
 
 
El Directo
23:57 / 09.12.06
I've had this on DeeMeeNee for a couple of months now but haven't got round to seeing it yet. I'll leave it as a special treat for my workaholic Christmas and New Year, when about the only day off I've got is Boxing Day.

That, Zelda and Paranoia Agent.
 
 
Nocturne
13:48 / 11.12.06
I didn't see much of paranoia agent, but I will be watching more after exams! It looked like a black-humour social commentary. I'm really excited about it.

Rumour has it there might be a second Haruhi season! This link is from the wiki on Haruhi, but I don't know how credible their sources are. I know I would love a second season! More Haruhi ftw!

I like to bittorrent my anime from here. As far as I know, Haruhi is not yet lisenced in the US. Also, peer to peer filesharing is legal in Canada (A news article on the subject, I can't get the link to the Supreme Court's page to work. It's in their archives under Mar 31 2004 "BMG Canada Inc. vs. John Doe").
 
 
Caramel Danson
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21:19 / 11.12.06
Sadly, it would seem that rumours of a second season are unfounded.
 
 
Nocturne
02:31 / 22.12.06
Lain Ayanami? Like Ayanami Rei from NGE? The different subbers spell names different... are we talking about the same girl?

I think the two have a lot in common. They both have almost no emotions, and they're both more obsessed with following orders than personal motivations. I'm rather obsessed with Nagato, especially after reading the novels. She starts to develop emotions, which cause her to act differently. Then she goes "Why did I do that?", calls it an error, and tries to undo it. Very fun.

And they should do a second season of Haruhi. They've certainly got enough storyline to do it.
 
 
El Directo
13:24 / 22.12.06
OK. I've checked my discs and it's in the wrong aspect ratio. That wouldn't be so bad, only I can't change mine on the TV. So I'm stuck with subs that runs off the edges. It'll be comprehensible but really bloody annoying.

Does anyone have this on DeeMeeNee, and if so would they mind burning it for me? I can supply the DVDrs. Please message me if you can do it. XX
 
 
enrieb
00:59 / 23.12.06
Thanks for making this post Nocturne, without it I would not have heard about this show, and thanks Tuna for giving me the idea to look it up on YouTube. At first I was confused by the episode order, but loved the weirdness of the show so much (and theme music) that I stuck with it. I Love this anime, it messes with your head. The treatment of Mikuru Asahina is a little disturbing, but eventually it kind of works due to the wonderful commentary by Kyon.

Here is the YouTube links for the show, this is the original anachronic episode order, I found this order a bit too confusing and half way through I switched to watching it in the chronological order.


1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14


This below is the YouTube links in the chronological order


2, 3, 5, 10, 13, 14, 4, 7, 6, 8, 1, 12, 11, 9

Please let me know if the links don’t work for you, or if they are in the wrong order I will try to repair.
 
 
Caramel Danson
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09:46 / 23.12.06
Lain Ayanami? Like Ayanami Rei from NGE? The different subbers spell names different... are we talking about the same girl?

It was a reference to both Rei Ayanami of Evangelion, who is well known as the template for any number of blank, affectless, whey-faced anime maidens, and Lain Iwakura of Serial Experiments Lain, another controversial and innovative 1990s series which was discussed to a limited extent in our main Anime thread. Now that I think about it, the similarities between Yuki Nagato and Lain aren't that striking, but then lazy, ill-defined analogies are my stock in trade.
 
 
Caramel Danson
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21:02 / 10.01.07
Bump - thanks to the recent news that TMoHS has been licensed for the US by Kadokawa Pictures USA, with Bandai set to handle production and distribution. Bandai have made a good job of localising some of my other favourite shows such as Eureka Seven and Planetes, so this is probably a welcome development.

More interestingly, and perhaps in response to the huge amount of trans-Pacific interest in the show, Bandai appear to have been conducting polls to cast the voice actors for the English-language version - visiting the production company's site allows you to hear a series of (unidentified) voice actors giving readings of various lines and you're invited to vote for your preferred choice. Given the amount of whining that goes on in Anglophone anime fandom when cult shows get ported, is this a welcome development? Or just blatant pandering?

To catch up on this story, go here and scroll down.
 
 
El Directo
03:00 / 12.01.07
Sorry, all a big crosspost again. I know it's a tacky and lazy and all but for me it's better than having to write out two separate reviews for two different places, designed with two different audiences in mind...

In the last week I've seen all fourteen episodes of The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya, an anime mini-series about a girl who on the first day of high school stands up when it comes her turn to introduce herself and announces, "Normal humans don't interest me. If anyone here is an alien, a time traveller, slider, or an esper, then come find me! That is all." She then gets sick of all the clubs in the school (that's right. She joins all of them temporarily) and decides to form her own: the SOS Brigade, otherwise know by its full title, the Save the World by Overloading it with Fun Haruhi Suzumiya Brigade. Dragged kicking and screaming along with her is the jaded, old-before-his-time Kyon, a boy who sits in front of her in class and narrates each episode. Haruhi is a possessed of limitless energy, a headful of megalomaniacal schemes and the attention span of a five-year old, and it's all Kyon can do to keep up with her, let alone keep her excesses in check.

I'm hesitant to say much more about the set up of the series, as what unfolds from here is continually surprising and open to more than one reading. You could view it all as the series seems to explicitly state, that Haruhi is central to everything that happens. It could be seen as the imaginary/actual adventures of a group of high school kids who are desperate to alleviate the boredom of their teenage years, and you could wonder for a long time where the dividing line between the imaginary/actual really is. Or you might come up with a reading whereby it's Kyon's desires, sublimated as they are beneath his perceptions of what a young man should believe and made al the stronger for their suppression, that are the driving force behind the crazy events that ensue.

It's packed with references to other shows. Yuki Nagato and Koizumi Itsuki seem to be channelling Evangelion's Rei Ayanami and Kaworu Nagisa respectively. The hapless Mikuru Asahina seems to be the can carrier for a planet-load of fanservice, carrying that strong and roll-your-eyes icky tradition to such abusive extremes that it becomes a commentary on the whole trope. References to Gunbuster are hilariously censored via pixellated visuals and blanked out subtitles. The bunny girl outfits bring to mind Daicon IV. The first/eleventh episode is a more-meta-than-meta wet dream of daft anime references and pastiches. I'm sure there's a ton more, but my knowledge of anime is sadly limited to only slightly more than a handful of Gainax series and a few movies. Please excuse the enthusiastic amateur.

I say first/eleventh, because the episodes are shown out of chronological order. The episode order you're given is 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, but to watch it chronologically you have to switch it up to 2, 3, 5, 10, 13, 14, 4, 7, 6, 8, 1, 12, 11, 9 (each of those is a YouTube link in case you fancy joining in the fun). At the end of each episode is the standard Coming Next Week section, hilariously overdubbed with a blazing row between Haruhi and Kyon regarding which episode should come next. I've only seen it in the achronological order so I have no frame of reference for which is the more satisfying, but I imagine that many of the mysteries of the show will quickly become too apparent too soon if you watch it in a sensible manner. I'm willing to bet that ending on what should chronologically be episode six is the best way to see the series. It's an extremely funny device that leaves you guessing much more than you would otherwise, and serves to reinforce that this show is Kyon's account, and there are some things that he'll only tell you when he's good and ready.

On the subject of Kyon's narration. . . I'm not sure whether it's a property of the manner in which the series has been fansubbed, as all the subs are in white regardless of whether it's narration voiceover or dialogue. . . and the device used whereby some narration is at the top of the screen doesn't seem to be rigorously adhered to all cases. . . but I'm almost one-hundred percent certain that there are moments in which Haruhi responds to Kyon's after the fact voiceover that she couldn't possibly be hearing. I don't know whether I've added false memories to the mix, but I'm sure there are sections where Kyon is doing his Wonder Years/Scrubs routine and she bites back with some ascerbic or idiotic comment. I'm practically convinced that his mouth isn't animated for those sections, or that the back of his head is shown and the style of the dialogue makes you think it's narration only for it to receive a reply, or that they've mixed the narration differently in the sound design but still blurred the line between what is happening in the scene and what is diary-style commentary.

And that leads me back to the multiple readings behind the series. Haruhi and Kyon are inextricably linked as characters. That the anime can say as much explicitly but can still explore the theme so deep into its structure, techniques and subtext is a marvellous achievement seen only rarely in the televisual medium. Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind would be one of the few other examples of the form being the content, as film technique is invented and reinvented in order to show the blurring of the boundaries between one person and another, or one person's conception of the other. But who here is doing the conceptualising and world creating? Is it Haruhi or Kyon? Or both? Who is running the show here?

What more do you need to know? It's beautifully animated in places (watch the drummer in the Culture Fair episode, or the scenes where Haruhi pulls Kyon around by the tie). It's extremely funny and one hundred percent character driven. It's a series of bonkers adventures with a philosophical conundrum at the their centre of everything that seems farcical. And it has the ending that it really needed to have. I guarantee that ten minutes from the end of the final episode you'll be screaming at the TV, shouting at Kyon, barking orders concerning what he so clearly needs to do. There's only one way back to the real world.
 
 
El Directo
03:04 / 12.01.07
Sorry. I meant to update that with a bit that thanks enrieb for the YouTube links.
 
 
El Directo
03:41 / 12.01.07
Fat Apollo: regarding the casting, it seems to be a neat marketing device using a democratic method that should silence most nay-sayers while simultaneously building on the series' subtext that it is the interaction with the audience reading that helps create who these characters really are. I really like the idea.
 
 
Nocturne
02:59 / 12.04.07
Random Haruhi-related AMV.

I don't normally go for AMVs, but this one was quite good. The creator actually went to the trouble of getting the un-subbed versions, and slowed down the images of Haruhi's singing to (sort of) match the vocals.
 
 
Tuna Ghost will work for dope
09:24 / 12.04.07
...but I imagine that many of the mysteries of the show will quickly become too apparent too soon if you watch it in a sensible manner. I'm willing to bet that ending on what should chronologically be episode six is the best way to see the series.

I'm going to disagree with this, but I've only seen the series in chronological order. But I will repeat that I was happy with the pacing of the show, even with the weird "cliff-hanger-ending-oh-wait-random-stand-alone-episode-before-the-resolution" style that pops up.

I'm ready to believe that the creators knew what they were doing when they made the decision to release the story as they did as opposed to the novel version (which, I should mention, I've never actually investigated).
 
 
Caramel Danson
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19:23 / 14.04.07
Actually, that was a rocking AMV. Nice find, Nocturne. We have a long-defunct thread for such items if you or anyone else should happen to find others of similar quality to flag up. Not that that is likely to happen too often, as AMVs have a dross-to-gold ratio vastly higher than just about any homegrown artform I can think of.

(I have to admit I watched it most of the way through thinking: "I don't know this song by Pink or maybe The Donnas but it's pretty good!" until turning my head slightly to the right and feeling foolish, and old.)
 
 
Pray for the madfigs
19:53 / 05.07.07
I just finished watching the series last night, and today there's a report that season 2 is really on the way this time! Coincidence, or a newfound ability to manipulate the universe? Hmm...

A scan of the article from Newtype magazine is here in case anyone can read Japanese, but it's being reported on a bunch of forums and blogs so it seems legit.
 
 
El Directo
20:01 / 05.07.07
A second season for Haruhi Suzumiya makes me very happy indeed. There's certainly enough source material to draw on from what I hear.
 
 
Nocturne
16:20 / 11.07.07
Yay! According to wiki, there was an ad for the new Haruhi season in a newspaper. I'm excited! I wish I could see a translated version of the ad though. Maybe it would have some more details.

I hope they do the fourth book, The Disappearance of Haruhi Suzumiya. I wonder if they'll do 14 eps again or a full 24? The more Haruhi the better, I say.
 
 
Caramel Danson
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17:20 / 11.07.07
This is great news, leaving the fact that the most fun element of the first series - the topsy-turvy episode structure - will probably be hard to sustain now that we 'all know' Haruhi's secret.

I just love the show for the fact that it can include boob jokes, dance routines, elysian depictions of Japanese high school teenage life, a really long, sparsely animated scene of a girl reading a book and listening to the radio, baseball and sly references to everything from Princess Mononoke to Evangelion within a plot based around a particularly obscure interpretation of the strong anthropic principle.

If they get around to the behind-the-scenes story from The Adventures of Mikuru Asahina Episode 00 I'll be more than happy.

"M... M... Mikuru Beeam!!!"
 
 
enrieb
19:42 / 11.07.07
Great news to hear about a new series, I just noticed that the youtube links above no longer work. Here is another link to the whole first series, the DivX player is much better quality, just click past the advert ,allow it to buffer and right click to get the full screen option. There is no need to log in or register.

Joox

There are quite a few other anime videos on there also, I was fortunate enough to find Gunbuster on there which really was every bit as good as Seth said it would be.
 
 
El Directo
01:19 / 12.07.07
Yay Gunbuster! Glad you liked it, please check out the Gathering forum thread for 27th-29th July if you're free.
 
 
iamus
22:56 / 14.09.07
In the same vein as AR's recent happy-thread link, there's this slightly less impressive, but equally glee-bringing nugget that everyone here might enjoy.
 
 
Bandini
18:25 / 09.10.07
Childish bump with a silly video - hope haruhi and megaman fans enjoy.

More Haruhi dancing sillyness
 
 
I am a bat. I am a man.
(prev. Triplets)
23:55 / 09.10.07
I heart you.
 
 
iamus
04:13 / 10.10.07
That's quite incredible!
 
 
Shiny: The Countdown to Thirty
14:07 / 20.11.07
My, this show really is a special kind of special isn't it? I got done watching it in episode number order a few days ago, and found it to be incredibly uplifting. I'd definitely strongly recommend watching it in that order as opposed to chronological order, episode 14 might be in the middle chronologically, but it's definitely the climax of the series, I reckon.

Haruhi herself impressed me inordinately as a character through representing, I think a stage of personal development that many people go through some time or another - her desperate, sometimes angry, whimsical yet utterly single-minded search for wonder and adventure, or perhaps for something else entirely and her wish to feel special and important in the face of the realization of how small one person is in the world, that's something I imagine everyone must have felt at some time or another.

Kyon I think in some ways might seem to be about very different things, but I think that's only a very cosmetic impression - externally he's somewhat of a sarcastic git and seems to have an emotional range that only spans from mildly bored, to slightly exasperated, but that's really not all there is to him. I loved that when he admits that he's pretty happy and content with his life, he's far more surprised by this revelation than anyone else is likely to be.

I agree with El Directo about how closely linked Haruhi and Kyon are, in fact I might even go a tad further. To me Haruhi and Kyon seemed in some ways to be less representative of two separate people, and more an exploration of different urges and emotions within the same mind. I'm aware this analysis is possibly a little underdeveloped at this point, and I hesitate to mention it, because I'm not sure I can back it up, but it's something I fairly strongly felt whilst watching the show and I wanted to throw it out there.

On a different not I'm slightly surprised by the amount of comparison made in this thread between Nagato, and Rei. I mean I suppose I can see some similarity up to a point, but the differences for me are far more notable - while Nagato seems remarkably passive most of the time, I always got the feeling she was quietly contented, perhaps sometimes even silently happy underneath her mask of passivity, as compared to the sense of suppressed suffering I get from Rei.
 
 
Caramel Danson
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23:12 / 20.11.07
The comparisons between superficially similar characters upthread aren't really meant in all seriousness; in that way they're much in the spirit of the show itself. Like many modern anime shows, TMoHS has an extremely playful, even satirical attitude to the industry that created it and the preferences and interests of the fans. So if Yuki Nagato bears a passing resemblance to Rei, it's to do with the fact that the quiet, passive, enigmatic, doll-like figure exemplified by Rei is an enduringly popular - and immediately recognizable - female character archetype in traditional anime shows. (And if you think that's a laughably simplistic view of Rei's character, you'd be right, since rumour has it that Hideaki Anno wrote her in Evangelion as a deliberate ploy to subvert and kill off what he saw as an outdated and reactionary stereotype, and was rather put out when she became immensely popular with fans and gave the trope a tremendous shot in the arm.) There's also a sly peep at "intellectual" anime - Eva again, and Lain - in the absurdly overcomplicated meta-technobabble used by Nagato when she explains her background to Kyon in her apartment.

Haruhi and Mikuru also embody and satirise the widely popular tsundere and moé character types, just as Koizumi exemplifies the (ahem) Mysterious Transfer Student. It's one of my favourite elements of the show that Haruhi herself has a rather sophisticated understanding of what elements and character types a story like hers is meant to include, and an early clue to her true nature that exactly her required persons and phenomena start to crop up soon after she expresses a wish for them.
 
  
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