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The World Cup: J'accuse!

 
  

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A Haus of Minions
00:22 / 04.07.06
You've got to say that having feet seems like an unfair advantage...

Anyway, doesn't this just go to show that football and Doctor Who can go together as allies?
 
 
The Impoverished Llama
01:44 / 04.07.06
No. It just shows how despicable the Daleks and Cybermen are, allying themselves with the true enemy-FIFA. Hopefully the Doctor will be able to destroy the unholy trinity by Saturday tea-time. Will Rose be the one forced to pay the price?
 
 
A Haus of Minions
01:47 / 04.07.06
And be eaten by Sepp Blatter to distract him while The Doctor fills all the balls with nitro-9?
 
 
Stoat-ROW ROW FIGHT THE POWAH
01:48 / 04.07.06
As long as the Doctor doesn't decide to overdo his "role model to the nation's youth" thing and stamp on someone's bollocks in a fit of petulance, we should be peachy.

(Incidentally, the last time I wastched a World Cup game was, ooh, about 8 years ago, and I seem to remember something similar occurring. Are football teams made up of stroppy toddlers? Only they always look a bit tall on the telly. Which ones exactly are supposed to be inspiring the nation? I hope it isn't those ones. They seem horribly uncouth. And wankers to boot).
 
 
A Haus of Minions
01:51 / 04.07.06
Quite hard not to hit a bollock if you stamp on a dalek...
 
 
foolish fat finger
02:07 / 04.07.06
"forty-four years of hurt" just isn't goin' to scan next time around...
 
 
Mistletoffelees
(prev. Mist van der Rohe)
10:05 / 04.07.06
They could change the lyrics to I know that was once, but twice would be nice.
 
 
The Falcon
(prev. Bots'wana Beast)
18:31 / 04.07.06
"forty-four years of hurt" just isn't goin' to scan next time around...

I'm sure they can make it to 60 - Come on, England!
 
 
Edmund
18:37 / 04.07.06
It's allright everyone France are still in it and they're on fire!
 
 
Mistletoffelees
(prev. Mist van der Rohe)
19:04 / 04.07.06
I´ve often wondered, why it´s an English (and sometimes a Scottish? I remember Del Amitri writing a song for the Scots "Don´t come home too soon.") and not a British team. Looks like cheating.

If Britain is allowed several teams, then Germany could have Prussian, bavarian, Hessian, etc teams, too.

So why English and not British?
 
 
The Falcon
(prev. Bots'wana Beast)
19:08 / 04.07.06
Because the first federations and leagues founded were the English and Scottish ones, and the first international was played between the two in 1872.

Also, I and everyone else in Scotland/Wales/NI would absolutely hate it.
 
 
The Falcon
(prev. Bots'wana Beast)
19:10 / 04.07.06
Furthermore, Germany used to have two teams, Mist.
 
 
A Haus of Minions
19:16 / 04.07.06
Short version - we invented the bloody game, we get to do what we want.

Slightly longer version - unlike Bavaria, Hessia &c., Scotland , Wales and Northern Ireland their own FIFA-recognised football leagues, their own football associations and therefore their own national teams.

Slightly longer version again - it's a bit of an awkward situation. The home nations (as they are known) get a lot of stick for having disproportionate representation in FIFA, buut are reluctant to give up this power, and to do so would potentially penalise the smaller leagues, especially since _even smaller_ leagues like Andorra would still have representation. This also prevents the UK from entering an Olympic football team, as to do so would be to set a precedent about having a team based on political status rather than league status. There is also the problem that a) nobody would necessarily _support_ a British team and b) it would disenfranchise Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland, none of whom really have players who would be likely to get into a British team (with the _very_ unlikely exception of Craig Bellamy.
 
 
Mistletoffelees
(prev. Mist van der Rohe)
19:16 / 04.07.06
Yes, that was stupid back then. Although they were two different nations at the time.

If the german peoples ever would get their own teams, the Bavarian team would be the only one winning anything anyway. They have an obscene amount of money and can afford the best players and whatever else they need to spend all that money on.
 
 
Mistletoffelees
(prev. Mist van der Rohe)
19:24 / 04.07.06
Thanks for the explanation!

That´s stuff about football that is at least a bit interesting. All those money hording and power scheming men, making crazy politics around people kicking balls and other people.

In Germany, every year, there are a couple of big football scandals, where polticians, managers, trainers, players etc. are caught meddling with drugs, money, illegal prostitutes, doping, slander and blackmail. Football is like a small version of human interaction sometimes.
 
 
elene
20:04 / 04.07.06
Haus talks as though London could decide to unite the teams if it chose, but I don’t think that’s the case, Mistoffelees. As far as I can tell the UK is united only because war would be even worse, just like the EU in fact. Sorry, except for the Northern Irish, who are just too afraid of the Cat-o-licks. The only parts of Germany remotely as disunited as the various bits of the United Kingdom are Baiern 'nd Preiß'n.

On another theme, certainly Bayern München are rich now, but they discovered the Beckenbauers and Mullers who made them great when they were a nothing club and teams like Nürnberg were rich, you know?
 
 
Stoat-ROW ROW FIGHT THE POWAH
22:34 / 04.07.06
WHERE IS THE HATE, PEOPLE???
 
 
A Haus of Minions
22:44 / 04.07.06
Haus talks as though London could decide to unite the teams if it chose,

No I don't.

Also, might be an idea to think a bit more on't before making declarations about the state of the union, eh? Britain exists as a massively complex social and political entity that is ill-served by such simplification.
 
 
Mistletoffelees
(prev. Mist van der Rohe)
23:18 / 04.07.06
The only parts of Germany remotely as disunited as the various bits of the United Kingdom are Baiern 'nd Preiß'n.

As a Prussian, it ticks me off a bit, that the bavarians have their own officially acknowledged Land, while we are scattered all over the place. But at least, we got functioning brains.

So they can play football and are rich. Good for them...
 
 
Fly Beezy (War Minister)
23:30 / 04.07.06
Why is Emmerdale not on? Surely that's the kind of thing Barbelith would like to see on telly, I'm sure, instead of the thrilling* last minute extra time Grosso and Del Piero goals that just put Italy through to the final at the end of a riveting** match?

*By "thrilling" of course I mean "evil".
**I am using "riveting" here in the sense of "a ghastly oppressive pox on my innocent mind and body".
 
 
Stoat-ROW ROW FIGHT THE POWAH
23:31 / 04.07.06
As I say. Worse than war, murder or Travis.
 
 
Mistletoffelees
(prev. Mist van der Rohe)
23:39 / 04.07.06
Hehe, I was on the loo right now, and suddenly there was lots of fireworks. My first thought, it´s half past eleven you bastards!

Then I thought, oh well, won again, my stocks are safe for another day, only to be threatened by the last match. I think it´s best this way (seriously!). People got crazy enough already, and that in all this heat (32°C today), someone even drove his car into the football adoring crowd at the Brandenburg gate (only some people got injured thankfully). This is where the madness ends! Now I can retrieve my city!
 
 
Mon Oncle Ignatius
23:59 / 04.07.06
**I am using "riveting" here in the sense of "a ghastly oppressive pox on my innocent mind and body".

Or in the sense of "the action of filling with rivets"?
 
 
Mon Oncle Ignatius
00:47 / 05.07.06
...the thrilling* last minute extra time Grosso and Del Piero goals that just put Italy through to the final

Wonderful new for all Italians, globally, I'm sure. Strangely, the Italians I know couldn't care less about football, pesky avoiders of national stereotypes that they are.

Is Emmerdale still on television these days? I don't want to watch or know the gory details about that, either.
 
 
A Haus of Minions
01:19 / 05.07.06
People, watching Ian Wright having a breakdown at the Academie der Kunste was worth it in itself.
 
 
Fly Beezy (War Minister)
01:24 / 05.07.06
Strangely, the Italians I know couldn't care less about football, pesky avoiders of national stereotypes that they are.

That's good to hear, and a welcome change from all those Italians who are only pretending to like football to fit in with the national stereotype, as opposed to really enjoying it, the way one might a Gogol Bordello gig.
 
 
A Haus of Minions
01:27 / 05.07.06
Is liking football a national stereotype? I think it's just something some Italians do...
 
 
Fly Beezy (War Minister)
01:29 / 05.07.06
Nobody could possibly choose to like football! They like it because they have been brainwashed or oppressed into liking it.
 
 
astrojax69
01:38 / 05.07.06
yes, but our brains are now vee-eery clean!


like stoatie asked - where's all the vitriol? de-oppress me, or come over to the wc thread in games and chat fusbol wit' us...
 
 
Stoat-ROW ROW FIGHT THE POWAH
01:54 / 05.07.06
War.

Murder.

Travis.

None of these things are as bad as football.
 
 
The Falcon
(prev. Bots'wana Beast)
02:00 / 05.07.06
Paul Auster, after the 98 finals, suggested football was in fact 'an excellent replacement for war', but you prefer it old-skool, eh Stoats?

Can't find that sax quote about Kirbyesque colour-wearing men duelling, but it aptly describes tonight's fantastic experience. I say this only to live up to a national stereotype, mind.

Wrighty breakdowns are the best breakdowns.
 
 
Stoat-ROW ROW FIGHT THE POWAH
02:06 / 05.07.06
but you prefer it old-skool, eh Stoats

Not my words. I am merely channelling a wise, wise man.
 
 
The Falcon
(prev. Bots'wana Beast)
02:08 / 05.07.06
Said wise man does not agree with your use, I think.
 
 
Grandma loves children
(prev. Old dear. Gin. Problems)
02:12 / 05.07.06
Nobody could possibly choose to like football! They like it because they have been brainwashed or oppressed into liking it.

Dude, and I know this is a terrible thing to say, but I think that you don't really like football.

You might think you do, but you don't.

Fairweather fans of the beautiful game, such as yourself, are happy enough to stand up and be counted for the major matches, but what team do you support, normally? Are you standing there, pint of warm Stella in hand, with a limp pork pie, in the chairs every Saturday?

If you had a boy, would you re-mortgage the house so the young shaver could ponce about the place in the new team strip?

I'm guessing not.
 
 
Stoat-ROW ROW FIGHT THE POWAH
02:16 / 05.07.06
Said wise man does not agree with your use, I think.

He gave me the tools, wise as he is. I now use them. ON FOOTBALL!!!
 
  

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