|Apologies in advance for what will probably turn out to be a heat-garbled mess...|
While I understand why male privilege needs to be challenged on the board, and comprehend the argument relating to why women can't be sexist, I'm confused about a couple of things.
It's obviously a waste of time to go around patrolling for slights to privileged groups, but I think there can be instances where making sweeping generalisations* about said groups can be at least unhelpful, and at most detrimental to the standard of debate. That is to say, while affront at statements detrimental to, say, men is, as id says, probably beneficial in the exposing-privilege way, I'm wondering whether such statements are adding much to Barbelith as a whole. To clarify, if one invents a straw female-id'd poster XX, say, and poster XX writes something along the lines of "Men are incapable of really listening to women" (this is looking like an attack on 2x5t, but I was struggling for an example and this is the best I can come up with), in my very personal case, I would probably initially be affronted, but after analysis the bit that would bother me would be the gender-essentialism and lack of qualification. Still not too coherent. More like: while I can see why one, as yet another hypothetical f-id'd-poster, might not want to provide examples of on-board sexism, but isn't altering the standard by which posters assess truth on grounds of gender identification fairly patronising to female-id'd posters as well?
The other thing is that I'm really unsure what qualifies as "menfolk-talk", and how to avoid it in the first place. I mean, in the example provided, it might be over-charitable of me (and I know exactly fuck-all about user Unencumbered), but the way I read that post was "What you should really be worried about is being roped into an obscure religious tradition in which women are treated like chattel". And moreover, do we know Unencumbered's gender identification? Can female-identified poster perpetrate "menfolk-talk"? (Should this go to the Feminism 101 thread? Should I just shut up now and save myself the embarrassment?)
*2x5t - I don't mean to imply that you're doing this, but the wording of the post that pw quoted got me thinking along these lines.