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Hawksmoor
02:14 / 11.01.06
You know....let me get a few things straight...first, here n America, when someone says 'about', it might mean a few things. First, is the obvious...what's that about...etc. The 2nd is used a lot like around..example, 'The man looked about the room." Just another way of saying around. The woman in the stroy is dark, but her beauty is comparable to the majesty of a dying star. Get it? An anchor that can see? Ex. "Your car has seen better days." Can the car see? My point. Things like spelling, in the end, don't bother me....and i do appreciate your review. But what does bother me is your attempt at being funny...."I know, I know, if anyone knows words it is our writer, but perhaps words have not been returning calls lately." Ha ha. That's the very reason why i was so stern before, the reason i didn't give a tin shit. But thanks for the critique.
 
 
Hawksmoor
02:15 / 11.01.06
shrug....kindly piss off.


Good day.
 
 
A Haus of Minions
(prev. Jenna Elfman's Hollywood Haus)
02:16 / 11.01.06
Yes, shrug, damn your abusive bottom! We're trying to examine great art here!
 
 
Life Critic
02:19 / 11.01.06
Aight, Toksik...I’ve tried to leave the whole thing behind, to be a good person, a mature adult about the matter

no you havent, you liar.
as i said in a PM, you cannot leave it.
rmember telling me it was over for you?
oh, thats right.
i mean the last time.
remember me saying i really doubted it?

uh huh.

as i told you pages back, i am quite immature and have no job to go to. its a killer combination that, with my intellect twice the size of yours, is liable to cost you all the insipid and limpid insults you can muster.
and still i wont be bothered by your pathetic attempts to lower my self esteem.

for a writer, you are a poor foe.

but obviously, you're a motherfucking baby, a spoiled white brat who is apparently far too used to getting his way in most matters

are you serious? what about yor assertion in a PM that This is real life, and what i'm telling you is that i refuse to back down if i feel like i am in the right.?

doesnt that rather make you the blackened pot?

Grow the fuck up, and get the dick outta yer throat.

dear god, man.
gay is not bad.
how many times do i have to explain to you that everyone is sniggering behind their screens every time you go for the cockular?

Everyone else has let it all go, that is, except for you. Either let it go, or keep ranting on and on about it.
i'll keep 'ranting', thanks. if its good enough for you, etc.

Doesn't matter. The more you post after reading this, the more you'll be telling others on this site about yourself.

now, that is true. same for you too. the difference is that what i am telling people about myself isnt going to stop them wanting to have a pint with me later.


Fucking baby. LOL. What's your real name, bro? I don't think i'll give you mine, as you're probably gonna fantasize over it like any other queer.

oh sure. there's nothing us queers like to do more than fantasize over names.

You're pathetic.

oh sure.
answer me one thing, though.
who is more pathetic? the pathetic man, or the man who allows himself to be bothered by the pathetic man?
oh, thats right.
you aint bothered.
you dont even look bothered.
 
 
Jack Fear
02:21 / 11.01.06
It's not just the Shrug's opinion, Hawksmoor. Those are The Rules. Those are the Terms of Service. Continued homophobic slurs, continued personal abuse, will get you banned.

If you want to stay, you'd better dial it back—and pronto, Tonto.
 
 
Jack Fear
02:24 / 11.01.06
And toksik: That goes for you, too. I suggest you step away from this thread for a while until you've both had a chance to cool down. Come back no sooner than 9 AM tomorrow. It's after 1:00 AM where you are—for God's sake, go to bed.
 
 
A Haus of Minions
(prev. Jenna Elfman's Hollywood Haus)
02:26 / 11.01.06
Home stretch now – it seems like there's plenty of ground left to cover, but much of it is pretty basic descriptions of violence – these are, paradoxically, inoffensive, but also not particularly in need of critique – they would sit perfectly well in a novel by Chris Ryan or similar, and do their job perfectly well. Where things do get more complex is where curlicues or baroque touches. For example:

Sweat, now more sour, (for it had been strengthened with Fear, had it not?) flew in a fine mist into the atmosphere of the room like dandelion spores. This gave the room an odd, wispy look.

Of course, the sweat was already sour – see top of page – so why it is more sour, and indeed how Fear (Jack Fear, presumably, or maybe Judge Fear) had managed to make it so very much more sour in such a brief time. The technique used to explain the addition of this flabby datum is known as apostrophe - literally, a turning away. In this case, the narrator turns away from the action to ask us, the readers, a rhetorical question. For no reason whatever. It does not strengthen the narrative, and once again it shows a failure to understand structure – in a scene in which a charmingly odd couple are killing the entire guest list of an orgy, the action is held up for the deployment of a rhetorical device to make us focus on what the sweat smelled like. You may wonder why this should be so important. I may wonder with you.

I mentioned smiling a bit above as an example of incongruous, workaday phrasing. This example, going from the positively epic (for it had been strengthened with Fear, had it not?), to what sounds like copy for a surveyor's report on some net curtains (this gave the room an odd, wispy look). This achieves the state of bathos - generally defined as a sudden transition from the sublime to the ridiculous – but not apparently for any particular reason. Editing usually picks up this sort of thing, but it must be difficult to edit when one believes that there cannot possibly be anything wrong with one's first draft.

More violence, Little Hawksmoor getting a damn good polishing, and then one of those adventurous moments.

All at once, the almost preternatural beauty she’d held moments before fell away like a cheap disguise. In her laughter and glee, her lips became tight and deeply lined, pulling back from her too white teeth in a grimace of inhumanity. Her curved, sexy thighs became thick trunks that set her into the floor like some ancient death machine. Her hair was a black veil that whipped in an arc through the air. Her arms and eyes flew here and there, mowing down twenty adults in sixty seconds.

Again, ladies and gentlemen, imagine being killed by a woman whose eyes and arms fly here and there, each one equipped with a tiny lawnmower. Pretty terrifying, isn't it? It is also probably more likely than being able to shoot, reload and wind a crossbow twenty times (minimum) in sixty seconds, but I imagine that a professor of toxology was most impressed by this section, so stet.

Bill simply fired his weapon over and over again. Only his eyes
betrayed his state of mind.


Well, his eyes and the way he is discharging a high-caliber firearm into people. But mainly the eyes.


The smell of Death was thick and foul in the air.

“All right?” Wilma said to Bill as she lowered her weapon, looking out upon the Death Room and her former targets.


And we're back to the capitals. In this case, it seems Death> will be joining Ultimate Vice, Ultimate Abandonment of Redemption and Ultimate Spider-Man on the perfume counters of our department stores. The Death Room is presumably where one puts the overstock. It's a fragrance for a man.. or a woman. Or a Sexy Party. One danger of these capitals is that they make these words so loud that even the characters can hear them, and start to pick up phrases from the narrator.

“Maybe we will,” Wilma said, still grinning. “I’m getting quite tired of putting these little sex parties together, and not seeing a damned positive result out of all the hard work at the end.”


She turned and walked from the doorway with not another word. The crossbow hung from her belt, and it bumped and bounced on her rather impressive backside as she walked away.

That's a rather elaborate crossbow, lest we forget, on a rather impressive backside. Rather!


From amid the blanket of smoke and death that permeated (more permeation – see top of page) the room, something stirred.



It was a young white woman.



Her dark, long hair was frazzled and stood on end. There were beads of blood and bits of bone and flesh in her hair and on her face and naked body. She breathed like a horse that’d been run and whipped to the absolute edge of physical breakdown.


A double here – an overcomplex simile and a strangely conversational narrator (that'd).


Tilda Harris had been invited to a Sex Party by a couple of maniacs with a mad mad-on against sex and fun, apparently. Her mind was a hurricane of panic, confusion, and terror. Hadn’t the woman who had tried to kill her (and who had in fact managed quite well in killing her partner and everyone else around her, for that matter) named Wilhelmina been her friend and co-worker for the past year? Hadn’t the two of them shared stories, laughs, and tears over the last year? Had the two of them not been damned near best friends?

Ah-hah! Here is plot. It's very lucky that in these situations one's first instinct is to recap all the action that occurred up to this moment, isn't it?


‘Time for thought and rationality, later,’ her mind screamed at her. ‘For now, Escape is the Grand Thought.’

And that one's second instinct is to do one's best to impersonate Namor, the Sub-Mariner. Hawksmoor seems to believe that criticism of this line is based around the idea that people are not lucid when under the threat of death. I would suggest it is rather that most people are not Prince Valiant when in such dire peril. Again, the tone of the narration has infected the characters. And yes, of course this is entirely intentional. It is not, however, good writing. It is, rather, the sort of thing that makes readers think that a writer cannot do characterisation.

There was a sudden Whisper upon the air, and Tilda Harris was thrown backward as an arrow drove itself through her throat and out the back of her neck> Tilda was thrown back into the final place of pleasure for twenty people, who had seen only happiness and good vibes in their immediate futures.

And so farewell, Tilda Harris. We hardly knew you. In fact, we didn't know you at all. You were thrown in at the end to generate a little extra pathos and provide a reason for a bit more guignol and another cracking mixed metaphor. Again, there's not much to say about this passage - it's fine for what it does.


And she followed Bill, even as he seethed with rage (and she thought of the best, most articulate way to invite her friend Trudy Wilson to a coke and acid party that she and Bill had been planning for some months) to whatever immediate destination Fate would lead them to next.


Again, we've got this problem of emphasis. The writer could have ended on an action sequence, with the death of Tilda Harris, but he wants to leave us with the knowledge that our heroes will do this again in the near future. That's a noble aspiration, but in fact is not achieved – after telling us this, the ending itself is a pointless, redundant meander - to whatever immediate destination Fate would lead them to next. It's a damp squib. If I were suggesting to the great man how to end this bloody blancmange, I might suggest a bit of direct speech in which Wilma chats about the possibility of another party as they quit the scene, but of course I would never presume so to do. Little Hawksmoor has spat its creamy venom, and we may finally rest.
 
 
Ex
12:25 / 11.01.06
Hawksmoor, Shrug is trying ot be helpful. If you persist with the homophobic nonsense, you could have your account closed. Surely a writer can insult someone without bigotry, which is, frankly, an excuse to use cliche?

Although, that said thanks for this completely mystifying top tip:

I don't think i'll give you mine, as you're probably gonna fantasize over it like any other queer.

When my subscription to Suicide Girls expires I'll be straight out there flicking through the telephone directory.
 
 
Y SO ALT?
(prev. Tamara Willett Hurt)
12:32 / 11.01.06
Having actually read the story now, it bears a rather striking resemblance to the works of one 'Dan Mann'.
 
 
Y SO ALT?
(prev. Tamara Willett Hurt)
12:36 / 11.01.06
Ex - one possible explanation for this is that Hawksmoor is actually a public figure who is also an established figure of homosexual desire. A homophobic gay icon, essentially. Slim? Fiddy? Who can say?
 
 
Gypsy Lantern
13:30 / 11.01.06
This thread is marvelous.

Well worth my time and energy.
 
 
DRR... DRR... DRR...
13:34 / 11.01.06
You mean marvelos LOL.
 
 
Y SO ALT?
(prev. Tamara Willett Hurt)
14:11 / 11.01.06
Yes Gyspy: this actually turned out pretty cool after all.
 
 
Ex
14:42 / 11.01.06
an established figure of homosexual desire

Yes, true - he may already have experience of having his sixpack the reluctant participant in a million homoerotic sexual fantasies, while he was just trying to play his music for the kids.

That would explain the unshakeable, unwarranted self-confidence and the homophobic slurs (otherwise such an unusual combination).
 
 
Hawksmoor
16:59 / 11.01.06
Thank you..you're all wonderful folks. Heh.
 
 
eddie thirteen
23:21 / 11.01.06
Huh huh...uh...Shut up, Beavis.

He isn't Dan Mann, either. Dan Mann was also a homophobe and an asshole, but he was literate, and sometimes funny. This guy is worthless on every level.
 
 
Hawksmoor
23:59 / 11.01.06
Eddie...hey, guy. When did you join the party? Join the dog pile. You must be gay, also. Otherwise, why would you get offended so easily? It's okay, man. Not okay that yer gay (unnatural and wrong) but okay that you have such low self esteem that you have to make yerself feel better by jumping on the bandwagon when there are already dozens upon it. It's okay. I can certainly take it. No problem. If it floats yer boat and makes you feeeeeel better, well, eh, what can i say? LOL. As far as having good self esteem and unwarrented self worth, as you've said, sue me for feeling good about myself, bro. Sue me for being a man who is disgusted by gays, ignorant white folks, and their PC views of themselvbes and society. Heh..you shut up, Butt-Head. You people are classic.
 
 
A Haus of Minions
(prev. Jenna Elfman's Hollywood Haus)
23:59 / 11.01.06
I notice he hasn't managed to come back on toksik. Possibly he has never thought that somebody he is calling gay might actually not be offended at being called gay, only at the assumption that being called gay is something to be offended at. This only leaves him with the word "pathetic", which I expect to get a bit of a thrashing...
 
 
Hawksmoor
00:10 / 12.01.06
"Possibly he has never thought that somebody he is calling gay might actually not be offended at being called gay, only at the assumption that being called gay is something to be offended at." Makes no sense at all. Bottom line, if you aren't something and someone calls you that, or assumes you're something, especially something like homosexual, well, why be offended at all by it? If anyone were to call me such, i wouldn't give a tin shit. Let the people it affects be offended by it, smart guy. What you've stated makes about as much sense as anything else you said up to this point. So, please, stop trying to sound abstract and intelligent. It just comes off as New Age, unrealistic psychobabble. What an idiot. Oh, and if u are into dudes, if you're also a dude, or vie versa, no matter how PC you are, being offended, for the record, it should be something that warrents pretty big shame. I'd think so. Not natural, simple as that. But then, what do i know? i'm just one more ignorant Southern Boy, eh? So, go on, be offended, closet case. LOL.
 
 
Hawksmoor
00:12 / 12.01.06
Vice veras, i meant, for all you anal, Literate people. My bad. LOL.
 
 
A Haus of Minions
(prev. Jenna Elfman's Hollywood Haus)
00:12 / 12.01.06
Toksik said he was bisexual, illiterate. Try to keep up.
 
 
Hawksmoor
00:13 / 12.01.06
Whoops, i meant Vice Versa.
 
 
A Haus of Minions
(prev. Jenna Elfman's Hollywood Haus)
00:16 / 12.01.06
Vice versa.
 
 
Hawksmoor
00:18 / 12.01.06
Illiterate. Who, big words, smart man. Try not to sound too smart, bro. toksik's in denial. No such thing as bisexual. Either you're gay, or you aren't. Self deception can be such a wonderful thing, though, can't it? What a freak show this is. You people are self deluded, a lot of you. No wonder so many of you are so easily offended. This site must be full of fags, LOL. I'm so sorry, not bundles of sticks, but homosexuals. Your points are tired and useless. Give it up. Well, I don't suppose it matters much, anyway. People who like doo doo diving are crazy, anyway. As I am sure most of you can attest to.
 
 
DRR... DRR... DRR...
00:20 / 12.01.06
Hawksmoor old chap, if you really believe that being gay is "unnatural" as you put it, you are so on the wrong board. Barbelith as a community is opposed to bigotry and you, kitten, are expressing some deeply bigoted veiws in a very unpleasant manner. You either need to a) buck your ideas up sharpish or b) at least shut the fuck up about how dudes being into dudes is unnatural LOL. Holding repellant veiws is not a banning offence; continually spewing hatespeech like Gary Bushell in a woodchipper is.

It may not happen overnight but if you keep this up, your suit will be killed and you will be unable to post on the board anymore, simple as that. Just so's we're clear.
 
 
Hawksmoor
00:23 / 12.01.06
I think I’ll go spend my time someplace else, as so many of you are so incredibly self deluded and stubborn. It doesn't do a body good to spend so much time in the company of Pseudo-Intellectual queers and pillow biters. Good day to you all. This has been pretty fun, though. Catch you all on the flip side. By the way (my childish giggling is pretty loud, now, can you hear it, folks?)I think I’m gonna take the posts I’ve put on off. Hey, if they cannot be appreciated for what they are, good or bad, well, no need for them to be up here at all, is there? All in good fun, though. LOL. Oh, and I got the last word. Hehhe..shaddup, Bevis.
 
 
A Haus of Minions
(prev. Jenna Elfman's Hollywood Haus)
00:27 / 12.01.06
I suggest that moderators don't agree deletions to the homophobe's posts. I'm happy to see these threads locked and deleted, but he doesn't get to tear chunks out of the thread on a whim.
 
 
Life Critic
01:07 / 12.01.06
*sets ganesh's watch*
 
 
Keith, like a scientist
02:38 / 12.01.06
It's really a shame, but also quite telling, that your last word is Beavis, and that it isn't even spelled correctly. Ahem.
 
 
Life Critic
03:05 / 12.01.06
I know words if i know anything, man. Trust me on that much.

as stoatie points out elsewhere, its all about the 'if'.
 
 
eddie thirteen
03:11 / 12.01.06
Was that peckerwood just talking to me?
 
 
Tryphena Absent
12:59 / 12.01.06
I know words if i know anything, man. Trust me on that much.

What I really like about this is that someone from the "American south" consistently uses the words "piss off".
 
 
Boboss
13:13 / 12.01.06
You know, I was thinking that very thing.
 
 
Smoothly
13:23 / 12.01.06
I think it’s a mocking attempt at a Britishism, like ‘old sod’, ‘good day, sir’ and ‘abusive bottom’.
 
 
Hawksmoor
15:09 / 12.01.06
Was this orginallty a British site? There does seem to be a lot of Brit humor and wit.
 
  

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