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FinderWolf
23:01 / 20.04.07
that's the best explanation I've heard yet, so I'll go with it!
 
 
ALL KINDS OF DEAD TREES
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01:55 / 21.04.07
That first panel of the technician is one of the most beautiful and heartbreaking moments in the series -- the obvious body horror and the crackle of radio static over top.

Cam-- Nice call on the ocean/continent reversal. I had not noticed that.
 
 
Nuke Kids on the Bloc
05:13 / 21.04.07
Which kind of contradicts Clark's "Htrae has a lot of water". Earth has more water than land, so the reverse..?
 
 
Nuke Kids on the Bloc
05:14 / 21.04.07
And, yes, the first page is horrifically beautiful. The fact that, even though he's a clone, Quintum still goes in to find one of his technicians.
 
 
ALL KINDS OF DEAD TREES
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18:48 / 21.04.07
Earth has more water than land, so the reverse..?

Would that hold true if the Earth was made into a cube, though? My grasp of geometry is rather weak. I'd best go into research mode and ask the Accomplice.
 
 
Nuke Kids on the Bloc
22:23 / 21.04.07
Yeah, but, if the shape changes the mass/volume stays the same, surely? If I squash a play-doh ball into a cube it's still got the same amount of doh.

I would be so gay for a 'scientific' cross-section diagram of Htrae and it's cubic molten core, mantel, crusts etc. What a poster that'd be.
 
 
Dan Fish - Fish1000.biz
23:19 / 21.04.07
I almost did the calculation, but my head is too foggy to finish it. no doubt some young mathematician can finish off:

Assuming Earth has a volume of x cubic units,
surface area on a cubic earth would be 6*x^2
so, if we assume volume=1unit cubed
surface area of htraE = 6 square units

On a sphere:
the enclosed volume is
V = 4/3 *pi *r^3.
Assuming the same volume, 1 cubic unit, use the formula to obtain r (radius)
1 = 4/3 *pi *r^3.

The surface area of a sphere of radius r is
A = 4 *pi * r^2
or something like that. Now, go do the maths!


(On a cubic earth however, the flat surface of the water would reflect better than the diffusion of a circular earth.)
 
 
Phex: Dorset Doom
23:24 / 21.04.07
I love Barbelith some times...
 
 
Mario
23:34 / 21.04.07
The surface area of Htrae would be about 23% water...

But that's still a lot. Imagine an ocean as big as Asia....
 
 
ziparrow's prismoon champaign
01:41 / 22.04.07
Suddenly, this thread got raised in it's coolness by the millions.

(And I just now realized Superman was calculating with his SuperBrain where he had to hit and how hard on that sketchbook -- and next time I see that panel, accompanied by a huge-smile Olsen, I'll go "fuck yeah!")
 
 
Nuke Kids on the Bloc
02:16 / 22.04.07
Sparrow, isn't he sketching the Bizarro Repellant (how Batman!) formula on Lois' Christmas card? I don't think it's a notebook.
 
 
The Falcon
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02:29 / 22.04.07
Triplets ftw.
 
 
ALL KINDS OF DEAD TREES
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02:44 / 22.04.07
Dude, Superman doesn't need to write down the mathematics of planet-smashing. His super-memory would retain and hold onto way more numbers and concepts at a time, and he'd be able to take into consideration his telescopic vision. Writing the Bizarro repellent formula down was for the sad mortals' benefit, based on his findings from Steve's blood stream.

I'm picturing Jimmy Olsen's crazy Daily Planet meth lab, concocting illicit "performance-enhancing" / "Bizarro performance-weakening" narcotics, Jimmy in goggles and work gloves while the relentless pounding of Bizarro fists against glass goes on in the background.
 
 
ziparrow's prismoon champaign
03:00 / 22.04.07
Oh my land, forgot all about the Bizarro Repellant!

(wait, Christmas card? WTF? I really need to read it again)
 
 
ALL KINDS OF DEAD TREES
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23:42 / 22.04.07
This thread brings people together. The Accomplice and I, during our two-hour drunken stumble home from a party last night, discussed the functionality of Superman's plan to defeat Htrae by using it to reflect the sun, the question of land mass to ocean ratios, the mass of a cube versus a sphere, and there was also a twenty minute discussion of red shift in there as well. He puts up with my random mutterings about Superman fairly well, all told.
 
 
Nuke Kids on the Bloc
04:21 / 23.04.07
Papers, if you've found someone who puts up with that fascinating bollocks, I suggest you marry them.

On the spot.
 
 
Nuke Kids on the Bloc
04:22 / 23.04.07
And get them to join Barbelith, obvs.
 
 
Nuke Kids on the Bloc
05:23 / 23.04.07
Or, at least, chain them up in the basement.
 
 
Nuke Kids on the Bloc
05:23 / 23.04.07
And make them join Barbelith, obvs.
 
 
Jamie Grant
17:26 / 02.06.07
Colouring, colouring, colouring... It never seems to end, issue eight is a colqurists nightmare, the whole Bizarro cube world is one giant junk tip with loads of detail, everywhere. FQ has laid down his pencil and now relaxes *cough* gotta hang on...
 
 
krakaboom
20:44 / 02.06.07
we're here for ya, jamie!
 
 
ALL KINDS OF DEAD TREES
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01:23 / 03.06.07
Jamie - is it still slated to come out on the 20th? Because I am wet with anticipation*.

I can't tell you how much I'm looking forward to touring the Bizarro Cube-world of Htrae.

*- also perspiration, considering it's like the hot-hot surface of the sun, golden apples and all that, at work today.
 
 
FinderWolf
20:35 / 03.06.07
hang in there, Jamie - when this is all over, you'll be able to look back and tell your family members that you digitally inked/colored 12 issues of some of the finest, most truly excellent, classic Superman stories out there.
 
 
Jamie Grant
21:02 / 03.06.07
It IS very special stuff. I like the way every age and outlook seems to take to it (what the mainstream bookshop seller told me). I wish more comics were like this, with broad appeal without being bland. I've just been given an extra week to polish it, so hang in there too!
 
 
Nuke Kids on the Bloc
04:04 / 04.06.07
No pressure.

No pressure.
 
 
ALL KINDS OF DEAD TREES
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04:11 / 04.06.07
Sounds like it's nearly time to get ready for Number Eight. Is there any thing from Seven's initial sojourn to the Bizarro Cube that needs to be discussed?
 
 
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17:08 / 04.06.07
According to the Wikipedia entry (always potentially dubious information, obvs), the character named Ron from #7 is a pre-existing Daily Planet staffer, from roughly 1991. Ron Troupe, who apparently married Lucy Lane in the mainstream Superbooks. If that's true, it's nice to see GM using so many Planet people, even when most of them get unspeaking roles.
 
 
Shiny: The Countdown to Thirty
22:56 / 04.06.07
I remember Ron Troupe from the triangle number days. I couldn't tell you a think about the character, but I can definitely confirm his existence.

On another note I wanted to congratulate Jamie on the fantastic work on the book, because I don't think I've done so yet - and I figure for work like that every reader oughta offer much thanks. All Star Superman is the only book I go throught again after my first read just to stare at the art on each page for a few minutes without reading the words and gorgeous as the line work is the amazing colours in the book play a very big part in why that's the case. So congrats on absolutely the best colour work out there right now Jamie.
 
 
Deculture Decedent
23:21 / 04.06.07
Ron wore Clark's old hat. That's about all I remember about him. Actually, he was basically a precrisis Clark Kent in many ways, without the Superman balance and a little less of the fake-fainting. I remember finding that bemusing at the time, but marking him for a quick shove off-stage.

He married Lucy Lane, which surely annoyed some Olsen fans, but has freed up Olsen for some ape-love.
 
 
Deculture Decedent
23:31 / 04.06.07
You'd think as the All-Star fiat is a sort of essentialism but also an attempt at encapsulating the whole mythology of a character, slipping in people like Ron Troupe would be necessary, yes, but necessarily a walk-on or referenced-in-dialogue moment, with Lois and Perry playing more significant roles. They have to exist, as they exist i the mythology, but they exist to establish a living-space. As opposed to a regular continuity continuing-title, where the lowest wrung characters can still have a whole issue or arc for themselves.

Not that Black Canary in the other All-Star series doesn't confusolate that notion.

And, Grant, your colorist's nightmare has really got me thinking about the tiny little choices coloring someone else's line work has got to involve. I do wish more of the books lining the shelves each month had your color palate/schema sensibilities.
 
 
ziparrow's prismoon champaign
01:09 / 05.06.07
which surely annoyed some Olsen fans, but has freed up Olsen for some ape-love.

Morrison's comment on that interview about sex with a Jellyfish: tell me that didn't sound like a half-baked idea for a All Star Jimmy Olsen issue that won't see print...

(or maybe it already exists; some issue where Jimmy has Aquaman's powers or something)

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It's incredible the amount of people I read around that - like me - likes to, every once in a while, look at the issues just for the colors' sake (and the comics stand on their own amazingly perfect as visual-only silent pictures).

And it's so nice when we get the chance to tell the creator of our crack-of-choice how amazing is the work they do.
 
 
ALL KINDS OF DEAD TREES
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05:25 / 09.06.07
It's incredible the amount of people I read around that - like me - likes to, every once in a while, look at the issues just for the colors' sake (and the comics stand on their own amazingly perfect as visual-only silent pictures).

Jamie's red-and-blue whizz effect as Superman takes off at the speed of superness evokes the same response in me as Quitely liquids -- seemingly a minor detail, but I love looking at both. Quitely's liquids (think the underverse portal in #4, for example) are wonderfully plastic and eruptive.
 
 
Jamie Grant
14:10 / 11.06.07
Gleetingz beautiful mutants! Thanks for the warm response and feedback to the stuff so far. This issue is/has been a frakkin' nightmare to colour. The sleepless nights, endless coffee refills, debauched living and the pale studio tan I've developed... All worth the wait.

All Star Superman nummero Eight... Why have silk when you can have plutonium?
 
 
Evil Scientist
17:11 / 11.06.07
and the pale studio tan I've developed

Eep! The Bizarros got Jamie!

Someone get the "performance enhancers", stat!
 
 
Nuke Kids on the Bloc
02:05 / 12.06.07
Show us where they touched you, Jamie.
 
  

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