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Rage is back. This time she is Quiet and Relaxed. [PICS]

 
  

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Rage is back! Attack!
00:48 / 20.09.05
Warren Ellis.
 
 
Y SO ALT?
10:32 / 20.09.05
...Spends twelve hours a day on Suicide Girls?

...Can kill a man with his beard?

...Likes double-page spreads?
 
 
A Haus of Minions
(prev. Jenna Elfman's Hollywood Haus)
11:24 / 20.09.05
Tells the truth, man.
 
 
Bed Head
11:29 / 20.09.05
I’m crossing my fingers for “...is the true identity of much-missed barbelith poster John Cage”. That'd be a great twist for the fourth page.
 
 
A Haus of Minions
(prev. Jenna Elfman's Hollywood Haus)
11:32 / 20.09.05
Whatever happened to John Cage, anyway? I miss that guy.
 
 
Hulk
12:03 / 20.09.05
shhhh.

your ruining it.
 
 
Our Lady in Her Haus
(prev. Our Lady Drinks Your Milkshake)
12:58 / 20.09.05


Black people love John Cage!



This is not John Cage.
 
 
Lord Morgue
14:33 / 20.09.05
I googled him like you said.


Damn, Haus, are you sure you want this guy pissed off at you? He looks like a total bad ass!
 
 
Hulk
14:37 / 20.09.05
shhhhh!

your ruining it!!!!
 
 
FINKLESTEIN!
15:31 / 20.09.05
Ha! Fucking brilliant, Morgue!
 
 
Scrambled Password Bogus Email
15:37 / 20.09.05
my ruining it??

It's mine.
 
 
Stoatie. Stoatie? STOATIE.
15:40 / 20.09.05
Y'know, Morgue, last time I played that game I figured my soundcard was busted.
 
 
Hulk
16:57 / 20.09.05
Shhhhh! and enjoy the silence of John Cage
 
 
Aertho
17:06 / 20.09.05


























(yeah. that's nice.)
 
 
A Haus of Minions
(prev. Jenna Elfman's Hollywood Haus)
17:08 / 20.09.05
A common misconception. It isn't silence - it's music. It just happens to be all rests.
 
 
Quantum
(prev. Quantum - terribly nonplussed)
17:40 / 20.09.05
A common misconception- it's biting social satire in the form of music, providing a powerful critique of our expectations of the form.

But it sounds like pretentious silence, and not in a good Simon & Garfunkel way neither.

Is it true Cage successfully sued someone for copyright breach over the silence? Or did he just try as an artistic statement?
 
 
A Haus of Minions
(prev. Jenna Elfman's Hollywood Haus)
17:41 / 20.09.05
NWA had to take that sample off "Straight Outta Compton".
 
 
Mourne Kransky
18:45 / 20.09.05
Mike "Wombling Free" Batt got into a legal scrap with the great man and it was apparently all settled amicably out of court with a hefty wad of cash bunged Cage's way.

I've been plagiarising him myself for the last four minutes and thirty three seconds but I don't think I've been spotted. Now I'm going to plagiarise Mike Batt by picking up litter off Wimbledon Common, in total silence.
 
 
waxy dan
17:35 / 22.09.05
I can't remember who... and I can't find it on Google, so I may be talking out of my posterior... But wasn't someone else sued for making and releasing a remix of Silence?
 
 
Quantum
(prev. Quantum - terribly nonplussed)
21:02 / 22.09.05
Warren Ellis
 
 
Mon Oncle Ignatius
21:11 / 22.09.05
Staalplaat released a CD of covers and remixes of 4'33" a few years back... it was called 45'18". Staalplaat's website only mentions Keith Rowe (from AMM); Artificial Memory Trace; Thurston Moore (from Sonic Youth); Pauline Oliveros, Deep Listening Band... I doubt they got sued, but you never know. I'll try to find the CD and see who else is on it if anyone is at all interested.

It isn't all silent by the way, naturally. Some of it is very pretentious though. Or is that arty?

Someone once threatened me with legal action for mentioning one of their trademarks in a review I published of a Staalplaat release - it wasn't John Cage though. Ignoring them pretty much worked.

[Is this thread rotten enough yet?]
 
 
Jack Fear
22:50 / 22.09.05
Fetish model dies, Warren Ellis mourns.

It'd be funny if it weren't so sad. Or is it the other way around?
 
 
DRR... DRR... DRR...
23:00 / 22.09.05
WTF? Funny how? She's dead at 32 but hey, she's a perv and Warren Ellis liked her so it's fucking funny?

Please tell me that I have drastically misunderstood you, because otherwise there's this whole feet, clay, you know, a thing.
 
 
The Freewheeling Convo
23:04 / 22.09.05
SMOOTH MOVE JACK
 
 
fridgemagnet
23:08 / 22.09.05
Not one of those big time funny things, no.
 
 
DRR... DRR... DRR...
23:11 / 22.09.05
Ms. T., that'd better be one of them irony things or summink, or I may have to unforget that you called me Wiccan and decide that you're a tosser after all.
 
 
fridgemagnet
23:13 / 22.09.05
I think it's an irony thing.
 
 
DRR... DRR... DRR...
23:20 / 22.09.05
I'm serious. Why the fuck is this funny? I mean, I hate to go on or anything, but unless she was also a Tory minister called Alan Ponsonby-Smythe and tried to pass a law against being a female perv, then I don't get the fucking funny.

Clue me in. Do.
 
 
fridgemagnet
23:29 / 22.09.05
Don't ask me; I don't think it's funny. Warren Ellis' perving on Suicidegirls might be a bit funny, but it's not funny when somebody dies, perhaps the least appropriate time to bring the subject up.

SMOOTH MOVE JACK could well be taken as an ironic statement about Mr Jack's comment though. That was how I took it anyway.
 
 
DRR... DRR... DRR...
23:36 / 22.09.05
Yeah, I'm taking SMOOTH ect as an ironic comment. Just a bit, y'know, prickly about the whole dead woman=teh funnay thing.
 
 
Jack Fear
23:49 / 22.09.05
Oh, I don't think it's particularly funny as in funny ha-ha,. Maybe as in "funny old world."

And I don't have any problem with Eva Lux's line of work at all (except inasmuch as it reflects on Ellis, about which more below). I just find it... odd.

See, the thing about Ellis-speak is that "my friend" means "Somebody I've e-mailed a bunch of times and maybe, possibly, met once. And, if the latter, probably clumsily hit on."

I don't know for sure what she was to him, but from what I'm able to gather, it was primarily an online acquaintanceship. And I find his reaction... I dunno. A little weird and self-dramatizing.

Thought-experiment: If you got word that *I* had died—or Rage, maybe (cos it's all about Rage)—would you be all "I'm gonna miss you so much," and hiding in the corner of the pub so's nobody could see your manly tears?

Maybe not. But then, you've never seen me in my underwear.

Which would be, in itself, guaranteed to make you weep.
 
 
DRR... DRR... DRR...
00:02 / 23.09.05
But that's just it, Jack--you don't know what she was to him. You don't know what she was to anyone. All we've got is a relatively staid announcement of her death, with comments decently frozen. to get all personal: Right now, a big chunk of my social support network is online; it's people I've emailed a few times, maybe met once or twice. And yet they've been there for me when I really didn't have anyone else; they've been my mates.

And yeah, if you died, or if Rage died, I'd say summink. I would not ask for sympathy because that would be crass and stupid. But I'd say something, because a big figure would have passed out of my psychic landscape.

And if someone came along and acted like your death was somehow amusing, just because that sad sack Mordant Carnival was moping over one of hir imaginary friends... well, fuck them.

Fuck them very hard.
 
 
Stoatie. Stoatie? STOATIE.
00:30 / 23.09.05
I hate to say this, Jack, because I usually consider you a voice of wisdom (and, indeed, TRUTH!!!) but I'm with Mordant on this one. (Not that I don't find Mordant wise usually, I hasten to add...)
 
 
Stoatie. Stoatie? STOATIE.
00:33 / 23.09.05
And- Thought-experiment: If you got word that *I* had died—or Rage, maybe (cos it's all about Rage)—would you be all "I'm gonna miss you so much," and hiding in the corner of the pub so's nobody could see your manly tears?

Actually, yes. When I say I'm worried about grant being in the hurricane belt, or about Denfeld's homelessness, it's not just bollocks, you know? And I'm sure that holds true for others here. Or maybe it doesn't.
 
 
Jack Fear
00:46 / 23.09.05
You're really much too kind.

Just, y'know, in general.
 
  

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