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7 Soldiers: Klarion, the Witch-Boy

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Our Lady Won't Do That Again

11:52 / 23.11.05

I got given a second copy of Klarion 4 when I last went to the comic shop. I was told that there was an error in the original printing but when I tried to flick through both copies together I saw no change. Anyone able to point out what the errors were?

12:23 / 23.11.05

Something about the coloring on the cover. Nothing that impacts the story,

16:05 / 24.11.05

IRON MAN: THE INEVITABLE [by Casey and Irving] art preview at Pulse, for those who enjoyed the art in KLARION. looks gooood.

A beautiful tunnel of ghosts

15:16 / 30.11.05

Watching Logan's Run the other night, I noticed similarities in the confrontation between Logan and Billy during Logan's pursuit of a runner, and the confrontation between Klarion and Billy in issue 3. Both scenes reference colour-coded stages of social/physical development, green in Logan's Run and red in Klarion, with remarkably similar dialogue in both.

Aside from possibly providing inspiration for the scene in Klarion, I wondered if the references were significant in terms of the Seven Soldiers' possible basis in Spiral Dynamics, or if it was another pop-culture landmark glimpsed briefly from the window of Morrison's speeding bullet train?

15:24 / 30.11.05

Nope. Green is where Mister Miracle will end up, and Red is Jake's destination. Still a color transition is what all these books were about. Klarion's our example of opportunistic, optimisitic, materialistic Orange.

A beautiful tunnel of ghosts

16:14 / 30.11.05

Cheers, Chad.

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17:55 / 30.11.05

Except that he drops everything to run back to Limbo Town and try to save the day - doesn't seem to opportunistic to me. I think, even though he can't admit it, Klarion is very much of both his parents; his father's wanderlust, his mother's grit and determination to keep the peace.

Lots of absent fathers in SEVEN SOLDIERS, but Klarion gets to have an active, powerful mother who helps to save the day. Interesting.

19:15 / 30.11.05

I noticed that as well, but Klarion doesn't want to return to Limbotown. It's Teekl who acts as his influential conscience there. Which is why Klarion fails as an example of a straightforward Orange protagonist. Fun book though!

A beautiful tunnel of ghosts

19:55 / 30.11.05

So Teekl's orange fur isn't significant beyond providing a contrast to the predominantly dark colouring of the book?

20:01 / 30.11.05

Teekl's conscience-like behaviour is Blue. Klarion is Orange. But each is colored the other.

A beautiful tunnel of ghosts

20:25 / 30.11.05

To give credit where credit is due, Chad, these threads would be much less interesting without your perspective on their underlying themes. Thank you.

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06:40 / 01.12.05

Well, it depends a bit on how your read Klarion's connection to Teekl, and what their exact relationship actually is. And I think you could argue that Klarion is a good example of the body that doesn't want to go back home, but has to, as part of their destiny - which doesn't make sense, now that I think about it, but I feel sort of the same way about my hometown. I don't want to go back there if I can avoid it, but I'm still tied to it, even if those ties aren't voiced by a loveable orange cat. I'm still not entirely up on those orange wossnames, though.

07:48 / 01.12.05

I don't hang with the notion that Klarion's materialistic / opportunistic at heart, or even that he represents the orange-labeled spectrum of Spiral Dynamics.

Klarion goes home because he knows it's the right thing to do, and Teekl won't let him avoid it. Externalized conscience, just like in every other first phase 7S book (see Misty, Vanguard/Guilt, and Ed).

It's the same thing in every 7S title so far, it's doing the right thing even when you don't want to, that simple. Klarion might've avoided for a time if left to his own devices, but he knows right from wrong. It's the reason he goes to the Submissionary chambers to save the townspeople. It's most certainly why he goes back to the surface - to help stop the Sheeda.

It's what makes him a hero, and makes these superhero books.

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07:55 / 01.12.05

As carefully explicated by Zatanna-darling in #4: "Do you freak out and walk away? Or do you grit your teeth and walk into Hell if that's what it takes?" Klarion goes to hell. Er, his hometown.

05:17 / 30.05.06

I was reading "Living to Tell the Tale," Gabriel Garcia Marquez's autobiography, in the laundromat today when I came across this:

"For several years it had been called the Portal de los Dulces, with rotted canvas awnings and beggars who came to eat the leavings of the market, and the oracular shouts of Indians who charged a good deal of money not to sing out to the client the day and hour of his death."

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02:29 / 15.12.06

CHILDREN, beward. Klarion has come amongst again. If only in passing, really, as Part 1 of possibly 2 or more.

Specifically, Robin teams up with Teekl in Robin #157. With Frazer Irving sexing up the art. Did anyone else read this? It did my heart good to see the Witch-Boy again.

Nuke Kids on the Bloc

03:25 / 15.12.06

What's happened to Chad, anyway? Is he still about?

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06:54 / 15.12.06

Haven't seen hide nor post from Chadssandra in a while.

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08:07 / 26.01.07

Soooooo?

Did anyone else pick up this week's Robin, and last month's? How do we feel about the use of Klarion, the Witch-Boy with the sexy Frazer Irving art? Irving is, I think, one of those artists that I expected to hate but now have this weird passion for. The story was a bit light, all told, but it had some nice moments. I think I would have preferred the follower to be Beulah come to beat on her brother from leaving Limbo-Town, but there you go.

Can't say I'm too interested in the regular Robin plots the book intimated, though.

16:46 / 26.01.07

I flipped through it; it's nice-looking but I don't really care enough about the Robin storylines to buy it. I am impressed that they gave Irving the art chores on this book, though....it's rare for a non-already-famous, non-maintstream artist to visually design/artistically debut a character (a non-famous character) and to then get the assignment to draw the first story in which that character next appears.

A Haus of Minions

16:50 / 26.01.07

Apart from Infinite Crisis and 52, that is.

Phex: Dorset Doom

17:28 / 26.01.07

A SPOILER MUST SPOIL- WILL IT SPOIL KLARION?

I read it- Robin hasn't exactly been a strong book lately, much like his big brother since OYL. Artists still insist on drawing a seventeen year old as a twelve year old, there's no good villains on par with Batman's rogues gallery (though Cassandra Cain would be the most obvious choice, since she's also Robins opposite number in the Titans East), Robin lacks strong characterization, coming off as something of a Spiderman/Nightwing hybrid. Like Nightwing it's a shame that better stuff isn't being written with the character, but that's a discussion for another time and thread.
Anyway, the Klarion story was a little confusing: Klarion seems to have given up on being king of the Sheeda and seems to have lost the magic Croatoan dice Motherboxxx things and there also seems to be more Witchboys in Limbo Town, whereas I thought they'd all died, leaving Klarion to have lots of kinky blue puritan sex. In the future.

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17:44 / 26.01.07

SPOILERS YAR.

Klarion seems to have given up on being king of the Sheeda and seems to have lost the magic Croatoan dice Motherboxxx things and there also seems to be more Witchboys in Limbo Town, whereas I thought they'd all died, leaving Klarion to have lots of kinky blue puritan sex. In the future.

I actually flipped to the last page for some reason (I think it fell open when I dropped it) and I misread the last page as having an adult Klarion, the Witch-King of Sheeda-Town on it, with a younger Klarion in his grasp. Which would have been a more interesting story. And I totally forgot about lack of other witch-boys. Hyperti-- I mean, Infinite Crisis. I liked the fleshing out of the Draagas and the Limbo-Town mythology, with the weird quirk of one familiar of a particular species being the only example of that species in a particular generation - one cat whereas all the other draaga species are more populous. Nice twist on the "chosen one" trope.

19:37 / 26.01.07

>> Apart from Infinite Crisis and 52, that is.

Well, sure, but this is the first story where Klarion has a leading role (i.e. the book is, for 2 issues, the title character and Klarion), whereas in 8C and 52 he shows up for a few panels at most.

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