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7 Soldiers: Klarion, the Witch-Boy

 
  

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Merely Ducard
12:05 / 10.08.05
A preview of issue 3 - looks gorgeous. I get a real Nelson Evergeen vibe off page 4.
 
 
Sax
14:20 / 10.08.05
Isn't this out tomorrow (today for Yanquis)?
 
 
Sax
14:21 / 10.08.05
Or is that Zatanna?
 
 
Merely Ducard
14:30 / 10.08.05
Do I look like I work in a comic shop?
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
14:32 / 10.08.05
Do you really want an answer to that?
 
 
RadJose
17:34 / 10.08.05
Seven Soldiers: Klarion #3 (of 4)
Available: 2005-08-17


don't know about the other one
 
 
Sax
17:35 / 10.08.05
You look like you sleep in a comic shop, though.
 
 
Yotsuba & Benjamin!
17:41 / 10.08.05
What a friggin' Splash Page.

And yeah, it's out next week, Zatanna came out today. It was a doozy.
 
 
Keith, like a scientist
23:25 / 10.08.05
shame about the typo in the first damn sentence.

i've been seeing way too many typos in comics lately.
 
 
Ganesh
00:43 / 11.08.05
Or letteringos, perhaps.
 
 
iamus
16:06 / 17.08.05
So is this out today, then?

Should I be getting off my arse to head into town?
 
 
Aertho
16:13 / 17.08.05
Oh do.
And spoil us slightly.

Give us all some Sheeda madness.

And whether Melmoth is a Wacko Jacko / Wonka analog.
 
 
iamus
16:24 / 17.08.05
Further investigation reveals that it's out tomorrow over here.

I could make some stuff up if you'd like?
 
 
Keith, like a scientist
16:26 / 17.08.05
that would be fun.
 
 
iamus
16:41 / 17.08.05
It's really coming together now! Sparked on by the discovery of a couple of fag-papers discarded by a pedestrian in Guardian #1, the Witch-Boy's adventures take him into the hands of the insidious Mr. Melmoth, the fouth cousin's half-brother of Sheeda Queen herself Gloriana Tenebrae!

Melmoth takes Klarion to Alwaysland, plies him with booze and fags and hangs him off a balcony while hundereds of little bald men in wraparound shades sing songs about chocolate starfish in a Glaswegian accent.
 
 
Aertho
16:57 / 17.08.05
Does Zatanna show up to testify though?
 
 
Mario
23:56 / 17.08.05
Random notes:

Page 4: The story is entitled "The Deviant Ones". While the youth gang in the story is called the Deviants, I'm fairly certain that this is also a reference to the old Brando movie, "The Defiant Ones".

I'm pretty sure the other Deviants reference something, but I'm not sure what. Possibly some British kids comics?

Page 8, Panel 1: In the museum, we see on the left the costumes of Stripesy, the Star Spangled Kid, and the Crimson Avenger, all from the original Seven Soldiers of Victory. The costume on the right is harder to place, but looks female. .

Page 9, Panel 2: The costumes of Liberty Belle, and Wonder Woman

Page 10, Panel 1: I can't place all the vehicles, but on the left we can make out one of Blue Beetle's flying bugs, and Batgirl's motorcycle.

Page 18, Panel 2: The Erdel gate is named after Professor Paul Erdel, who's experimental transporter brought the Martian Manhunter to Earth in the 1950's. Hence, the "Red Place" is almost certainly Mars.

That's it for now.
 
 
Mario
23:57 / 17.08.05
Correction. Saul Erdel.
 
 
Yotsuba & Benjamin!
00:32 / 18.08.05
It also reminded me of that big red demon Zee's crew walked around on in 7S:Z #1. But that's just a little flash I got. That's pretty incontrovertible evidence that The Misters are mining Mars for its Gold Reserves. And isn't that just the most perfect sentence ever.

I was initially wondering why they would've bothered with Limbo Town, but then I remembered all that Blue Rock stuff the Grundys were mining.

What a hell of a last scene, huh? "The Deviant Ones" had almost nothing to do with the overarching story but who cares.

"Shall I tell you the hour and date of your death?"
 
 
Mr Tricks
02:23 / 18.08.05
does anyone else thing Mr Melmoth is actually a hive of little Sheeda with a stitched on head... something about that close up which showed his neckline...

otherwise fun stuff... the robery elevated into art reminded me of that posse of artestes from Kill your Boyfriend
 
 
Hallo, Paper Spaceboy
02:51 / 18.08.05
Have yet to pick this up - worked all today - but I'd also suggest that the "Deviants" might reference the Deviants from Marvel Comics, who were a weird mutated offshoot of humanity created by the Celestials, who lived underground...

You know, sort of like Croatoan's Limbo-Towners.

It's a might stretched, but Morrison's on his whole Kirby Love kick, so...
 
 
Aertho
03:02 / 18.08.05
"We keep our familiars small and we keep them on the inside where I come from..."

Yeah, that Melmoth is a strange fellow.

No Sheeda this turn? I mean, the retcon of the Roanokers was new, but hardly the action we've enjoyed these past few episodes. Means the Sheeda stopped by earlier, in the 16th century, and again in the fifties(Newsboy Army)? What stopped the harrowing then?
 
 
Keith, like a scientist
03:08 / 18.08.05
that above quote mostly struck me as His Dark Materials reference, right? In fact, I think it's almost straight out of one of the books when discussing the difference between Lyra and Will's worlds in regards to daemons.
 
 
Aertho
03:27 / 18.08.05
Nope. You're gonna have to fill me in or link something or at least summarize His Dark Materials, dude.
 
 
Yotsuba & Benjamin!
03:43 / 18.08.05
I saw it more in the context of Limbo Town as well. He's a White Martian in a people suit.

Or some such thing.
 
 
Jack Fear
04:43 / 18.08.05
You're gonna have to fill me in or link something or at least summarize His Dark Materials, dude.

No need to summarize the whole thing; it's just one of many conceits in the story.

The idea is that the human beings of most dimensions/realities (the story spans several) are born with a portion of their soul exteriorized in the form of an animal—called a daemon—who is that person's constant companion. The daemon changes shape throughout a person's childhood, settling on a final form some time around adolescence. Daemons have physical substance, and can speak—usually (but not always) only to its host; they have a powerful empathic bond to the host, as well as an independent sensory perception, which makes them useful as spies. They usually (but not always) have the opposite gender to their host. Beyond a certain point, physical separation of a daemon and a host is painful to both, and will eventually result in death. If a person is alchemically severed from his/her daemon, the person becomes kinda dull and zombified, and the daemon becomes an ordinary animal of its type.

Yadda yadda yadda. Obvious similarities with the familiar that each resident of Limbo Town seems to have.

Really, the books are well worth reading, even if you only read the first, The Golden Compass (or The Northern Lights, as it's known outside the US).
 
 
Keith, like a scientist
05:04 / 18.08.05
only thing to add to that is that in the context of the book series, the main character is an adolescent with a daemon and she meets someone her own age from another universe that doesn't have a daemon. it's discussed somewhere in there that some universes do not have external daemons, because their "familiar" is inside.
 
 
Aertho
05:15 / 18.08.05
What was the "inside-familiar" kid's universe like? Hell, perhaps?

"Inside-familiar" had me immediately think that Melmoth had a tapeworm.

Also, Fantomex was E.V.A.'s daemon? How eenteresting.
 
 
Jack Fear
05:37 / 18.08.05
What was the "inside-familiar" kid's universe like? Hell, perhaps?

It was our own world, actually, or something close to it.

Draw from that what you will.
 
 
Aertho
05:40 / 18.08.05
Great. I have a tapeworm.
 
 
Juan_Arteaga
07:17 / 18.08.05
Our own world? But I thought that was supposed to be Ne-Bu-Loh? HE HAS NE-BU-LOH INSIDE!
 
 
Colonel Kadmon
16:57 / 18.08.05
Really, the books are well worth reading, even if you only read the first, The Golden Compass (or The Northern Lights, as it's known outside the US).

I believe that should read - Really the books are well worth reading, even if you only read the first, The Northern Lights, (or The Golden Compass as it's known in the US for some reason, just like they changed the first Harry Potter title).

Apologies for threadrot.
 
 
Jack Fear
18:25 / 18.08.05
I was replying to Chad, who's in the U.S., as am I. Why shouldn't I give him the title under which he's most likely to find the book? It's not our fault that you decadent, contrarian Euro-freaks insist on giving your books names that are demonstrably wrong. You should be grateful that I even gave you that little sop. Now don't push your luck.
 
 
Hallo, Paper Spaceboy
19:54 / 18.08.05
Ended a bit abruptly, and the scene at the museum was a bit - difficult to follow. Nobody was - presumably - invisible, but that whole sequence felt like the storytelling was off, the pictures weren't filling in the word-gaps enough. And that was Miss America's costume beside Star-Spangled Kid, Stripesy's, and the Crimson Avenger's. She wasn't a Soldier, but if you match her up, it looks like the Avenger is the only non-Patriot superhero shown. I think it partly comes down to the kids being in the museum because they broke in, but the guards acting like it's business as usual and regular operating hours; they're freaked by the "ghost," not by the kids being there.

The implications of the Roanoke history at the beginning begs for further sussing out, probably come up next issue, and I liked it. From earlier in the series, I don't think Sheeda are welcome back, so we're left with a question- Was Croatoan a saviour figure who saved them from the Sheeda, or was he the Sheeda who came unto them, a Witch-God who danced with naked girls in the field, got 'em pregnant, and ruined the city? If so, why do they worship him but see the rest of the Sheeda as abominations?
 
 
Aertho
20:46 / 18.08.05
Humans beings are flawed, vile, and ugly creatures; but we worship Jesus, cause of the things he said and did.

Maybe Croatoan was a Half-Sheeda Immortal with some good ideas? Anybody got any ideas from fairy tales?
 
  

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