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Bat-Prof Says Dark Knight is "best story ever"

 
  

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miss wonderstarr
14:34 / 06.01.05
hello Barbelith.

I have been asked to write a chapter on "The Best Batman Story Ever", for a book called Beautiful Objects in Popular Culture (forthcoming Blackwell 2005).

The very idea of picking the "best" Batman is a nightmare, but needs must, and I picked, and I have explained my reasoning.

I hope it is OK to post my chapter here. On a selfless level, I thought some of you might be interested in it and fancy reading it -- and on a slightly more selfish level, I would value feedback. The chapter is written from a fan perspective, and it seems fitting to ask for fan comments. Of course, you might not agree with my opinions, but more importantly to me, I might have made some factual errors that others would pick up.

If you feel like reading and commenting, I will, with with your permission, use feedback from this forum to redraft or add to the piece. I am very happy to give credit in the chapter to anyone whose comments I use -- your real name or screen name, whichever you like.

Thanks for your time.



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The Best Batman Story: The Dark Knight Returns


You have… a relationship with a man, an older man, for around three years. You get used to people asking how he’s doing when they meet you; you’re treated as a couple, your names joined in friends’ minds. It ends amicably, affectionately. No big split, just a drifting, a sense that this period of your life is now over. You take his pictures off your wall, file the souvenirs away. People ask you about him as if you should know; you tell them that was years ago. Gossip about him filters through to you from time to time: he’s revamped his image; he’s been seen with a new partner or an old flame. You wish him well.

And then someone asks you to name the best time. To pick out one adventure, one great day, one moment.

Batman, to me, is more than a character from comics, films and television: Batman is a phase of my life, from 1996 to 1999, when I holed up in Cardiff – in an apartment tiny as a monk’s cell, the shower in a cupboard next to the kitchen sink and the bathroom a dank cubicle – and plastered images of my chosen icon across the walls, loading the shelves with graphic novels. Even now, five years and five books later, I still carry the label the tabloids gave me when they discovered my PhD research, one day in Spring 99: Doctor Batman.

Batman, to me, is a photo-album of moments; a montage compiled of snatched clips from sixty years; a flick-book of images, each with its own charm, each tugging with it a rush of memories. The “Negative Batman”, reverse-processed and fleeing the light, from an annual in the 1970s; the Adam West Batman, always heroic rather than ridiculous when I watched him as a child; the Denny O’Neill “Shaman” Batman, which gave me fever dreams during a week of flu; the stark, ludicrously brutal Batman of the first, late-30s episodes, dealing out death and rough justice; the thin-lipped, scar-hardened Batman of Grant Morrison’s Justice League comics, which I followed religiously every month; the stylised Expressionist Batman of the animated TV series, swooping across the city with more grace than any human actor could hope for.

To pick just one is to betray all the others, but if it must be done then I have my criterion for choosing: it is simple and subjective, and it would make for a chapter of one hundred words, so what follows are the harder, more objective reasons – not my soft, personal reading, which barely deserves to be called “reason” – why Frank Miller’s The Dark Knight Returns, published in four parts during 1986 and reprinted as a graphic novel, should be in the running for the most important single Batman story since his first appearance in the issue of Detective Comics dated May 1939.

Note that with this colder, rational approach, this just-the-facts-ma’am survey, I even resist using the word “best”: a logical pinpoint skids away from any attempt to settle on an individual, ultimate episode from the history of a character who has now featured in at least one comic – and often half a dozen – every month for sixty-five years, and the theories of interpretation I still abide by remind me that there can be no absolute concept of “best text”. There are as many best Batman stories as there are Batman fans. Mine will just be one love letter among millions.

If you ask me personally, all I can give you is my favourite: my best, which isn’t the same as the best. That can come later. What follows, instead, are the facts and the framework: not my reasons, though they might be someone else’s, why The Dark Knight Returns is the best Batman story ever.


While Dark Knight was received as groundbreaking at the time of its original four-part publication and book-length reissue, its impact caused further-reaching, delayed tremors that did more than shake down the concept of Batman and his immediate mythos. Even at the time of writing, almost twenty years later, Miller’s creation of an alternate future for Batman is reverberating through the DC Universe, shaping the timelines, the origins, the rules and possibilities for every other character in the company’s fictional world of demigods and titans.

When it first appeared, Dark Knight stood outside the structures of comic book convention, its departure from the accepted structures of Batman’s continuity justified as a one-off experiment by an iconoclastic, star creator. In a retroactive shuffle typical of the superhero industry, though, Dark Knight was subsequently rebranded – much as Star Wars was titled Episode IV a year after its initial release – and imprinted with the logo “Elseworlds”. “In Elseworlds,” as the official back-cover blurb runs,

Heroes are taken from their usual settings and put into strange times and places – some that have existed, or might have existed, and others that can’t, couldn’t or shouldn’t exist. The result is stories that make characters who are familiar as yesterday seem as fresh as tomorrow.

According to linear chronology, the first Elseworlds Batman tale was Augustyn and Mignola’s Gotham By Gaslight (1989) featuring a Victorian Dark Knight in a thick, clumsily bricolaged outfit dealing with the Ripper, followed by further exploratory departures such as Moench, Jones and Jones’ Batman and Dracula: Red Rain (1991), Chaykin, Moore and Chiarello’s Batman/Houdini: The Devil’s Workshop (1993) and Chaykin’s Dark Allegiances (1996), which could have been subtitled Batman/Hitler. With hindsight, however, it was Dark Knight that opened up the potential for what used to be called “Imaginary Stories”, paving the way for speculations outside rigid continuity.

Dark Knight’s lasting influence was, appropriately for a Batman comic, twofold, two-faced and entirely paradoxical. On the one hand, as I’ll detail below, it set the tone to grim, grainy, rainy and gritty, and convinced a host of subsequent writers and artists that the key to an “adult” comic was hard-hitting vigilantism with an edge of political commentary and an S&M twist to the superhero costumes. In this context, it was the prime text of the “post-Crisis” period: the Crisis on Infinite Earths maxi-series had forced DC’s universe into a slimmed-down, supposedly more manageable form, razing off worlds that didn’t fit and mercy-killing swathes of characters. It was a holocaust not just of geography but history, as origins were rebooted and the past wiped out. From this point onward, whole pockets of history were buried: and invariably, it was the more embarrassing, campy episodes that were repressed, never included when the origin was retold. Batman’s early days now officially involved pilgrimages to train with Asian martial artists and mystics, and trials by combat in Gotham’s red light district: there was no Ace the Bat-Hound, no science fiction alien adventures, no Rainbow Batman costumes in this history, and anyone clinging to that kind of nostalgia was suffering false memory syndrome. It wasn’t a dream, it wasn’t an imaginary story. It never happened anymore.

Dark Knight, then, with its hard-assed man-mountain of a Batman, his costume armoured and his vehicle a military monster – the girl-Robin deadening those troublesome homoerotic associations that her persisted since the 1950s, and the Joker taking the mantle of sexual deviance away from the hero – suited the mood of tough, no bullshit gravity that had been imposed on a colourful but messy universe, a circus of pseudo-science and careless inconsistency. The compression of multiple universes into a single, serious earth was echoed by the insistence on the new term “graphic novel”, replacing the light and infantile “comic book”: one hefty hardback volume carrying far more weight than a dozen flimsy monthly titles, and earning superhero adventures a temporary place in mainstream bookstores as “post-literate” visual culture. Dark Knight embodied the genre’s tightening-up into a masculine, muscular form, perfect for the key market of heterosexual teenage boys and young men who wanted superheroes they could finally be proud to admire, comics they could read in public. It was a heavy-duty mother of a vehicle itself, crushing the old jokes about caped crusaders and Boy Wonders, powering through expectations and prejudices and planting a reinforced new Batman in the ruins, staring anyone down who dared mention Adam West.


On the other, Dark Knight was inherently playful, striking out from the accepted codes and breaking away from established conventions – a female Robin, a new Commissioner, a tank-like Batmobile, the death of the Joker and the end of the Batman – and as such, it planted generic seeds that flowered in the alt-historical Elseworld experiments and continued growing under the surface, blooming suddenly again in the mid-1990s. Mark Waid and Alex Ross’s four-part Elseworlds series Kingdom Come (?1995?) gave Batman another possible future, its vision of a snowy-haired, cynical technocrat distinct from Dark Knight but indebted to it for the very concept of alternative timelines where iconic, never-changing characters are allowed to age, growing weaker but wiser.

In 1998 Waid and a team of artists revisited this future in an experiment more ambitious than any previous Elseworlds: The Kingdom broke the rules further by meshing with mainstream continuity and bringing the alternate timeline into contact with the official “present-day”, culminating in the revelation of Hypertime, a temporal theory that explained how all the Elseworld universes could co-exist along parallel, possible strands. For the first time, the playful experiments were permitted within the official mythos, albeit through a science fiction get-out clause that only allowed restricted travel between temporal flows, on special occasions. Even more importantly, the double-page spread that introduced Hypertime, with glimpsed scenes from possible alternatives, included tantalising flashes from comics that had been officially ruled out of continuity since the Crisis: old, illogical versions of characters, silly pets, giants and doppelgangers, whimsical misfits like the 5th dimensional sprite Bat-Mite. Among the half-forgotten faces was Superman’s dog, Krypto, guaranteeing that Ace the Bat-Hound must, by rights, be back in permitted continuity too.

The Dark Knight’s bold carving of a possible future for the character outside the normal boundaries of monthly comic-books had, ironically given its reception as a tough and uncompromising revision of a camp hero, ultimately led to an upheaval of the rules laid down in 1986 and a re-opening of the gloriously untidy treasure-chest that Crisis had intended to bury.

The success of Dark Knight – its unprecedented sales beyond the traditional comics-buying market, and its grabbing of headlines in daily newspapers and hip magazines - had dramatic repercussions for the comic book industry. Once more, contemporary trends in superhero comics can be identified as further ripples from that 1986 shockwave, and again, the longer-term effects are in some ways surprising, revealing the complexity of Dark Knight beyond its initial impression of a macho jackboot on the mythos.

At the time, Dark Knight was often reviewed alongside Moore and Gibbons’ Watchmen and Art Spiegelman’s Maus as exemplars of the “graphic novel” phenomenon, and while the form failed to wedge itself firmly into mainstream popular culture – the traditional novel turned out not to be dead after all, and the comic book remained, by and large, in comic shops – this newfound kudos gave the industry an incredible ego-boost. The ephemeral medium of four-color funny-papers was treated to luxurious production values: glossy paper, painted art, hardback covers. Monthly titles that would have been remembered only in fans’ collections were dug out and reprinted in handsome volumes and “archive” editions. The entire career of Kingdom Come co-creator Alex Ross, whose shtick is photo-realistic, Norman Rockwell-style portraits of DC heroes, would have been very different without these changes in the basic production process, and the perception that comics could also sell as coffee-table editions.

While this pumped-up confidence led to pretentious, overwrought and overpriced follies like Morrison and McKean’s Arkham Asylum (1989) – illegible lettering, quotes from Lewis Carroll, textured endpapers but very little story beneath the impressionistic art – it also enabled the reprinting of innovative but relatively obscure work like Bryan Talbot’s Adventures of Luther Arkwright (1990), led to book-length celebrations of newspaper classics like Herriman’s Krazy Kat, helped find a market for indie, girl-friendly titles like the Hernandez Brothers’ Love and Rockets, and encouraged the publication of experimental “commix” such as Raw. Even in recent years, the fact that Chris Ware’s Jimmy Corrigan: The Smartest Boy On Earth (2001) was even reviewed in the Guardian, let alone that it won that newspaper’s First Book Award, is a subtle but significant after-effect of the mid-80s graphic novel hype.

Dark Knight Returns helped to shape the physical form and appearance of comic books, but more directly it cast a shadow over the superhero genre, dominating the way costumed characters were represented: even when the trend for grim and gritty vigilantism abated, the new mood was itself a reaction to the post-Dark Knight tendency for hardboiled revisionism. In the new Batman’s wake, a series of DC’s key icons and second-string characters were given rewritten origins, many of them borrowing from both Watchmen – literary prose, epigrams, psychosexual complexity – and Dark Knight’s approach with its radical, often brutal spin on familiar visual tropes. Inevitably, few of the imitators matched the standard of either Miller or Moore – the most notorious example of mismanaged “maturity” and “dark revisionism” remains Mike Grell’s Green Arrow reboot, The Longbow Hunters (1987) which used the implied rape and graphically-depicted violation of his female partner, the Black Canary, to justify the hero’s gear-shift from crimefighting with trick arrows to sadistic, uncompromising vengeance.

However, the late-80s obsession with reinvented superheroes – which frequently meant digging up obscure, ridiculous or redundant characters – also led to some fascinating challenges and work of lasting value. Neil Gaiman followed his prestige three-part musing on the forgotten heroine Black Orchid (1988) with an experiment in horror fantasy, transforming Sandman (1989 onward) from a guy in a gas mask to a gothic personification of Dreaming and creating a minor cultural phenomenon, one of the biggest crossover successes of the 1990s. Grant Morrison transformed the freakish adventures of the Doom Patrol (1989 onward) into a heady, fragmentary trip, with episodes based on Smiths lyrics and Dadaist theory. Peter Milligan revived the minor character Shade: The Changing Man (1990 onward) and took him on a Lynchian road trip through the contemporary American nightmare.

These slightly skewed monthly titles – distinct in mood and tone from the mainstream DC Universe – earned a dedicated indie following and, in time, a separate corporate imprint, Vertigo, replacing their previous vague description of “dark fantasy”. This dark, charming little pocket of the DC mythos flourished during the 1990s and continues to house acclaimed, intelligent regular monthlies such as Milligan’s Human Target, Azzarello and Risso’s 100 Bullets and Brian K. Vaughan’s Y: The Last Man.

While the Vertigo brand can be traced clearly back to Dark Knight’s adult-oriented revisionism, its development includes a further interesting twist. Just as Dark Knight’s bold experiment with a possible future can now be seen as a precursor of Elseworlds and, in turn, Hypertime’s continuity apertures, so Miller’s rewriting of Batman, despite its apparently thin-lipped heterosexuality, effectively enabled Vertigo as a space for creators like Morrison, Milligan and Gaiman to play with other superhero characters: and that play frequently embraced gay, lesbian, bisexual and transsexual identities.

This separate area within DC, with its “for mature readers” label on the cover of each title, became a space for surprisingly queer adventures and heroes, of whom Doom Patrol’s transvestite stretch of real estate, Danny-the-Street, was perhaps the most surreally flamboyant example. With hindsight, Miller’s apparently grimly straight Bat-mythos can be seen to involve a fair amount of cross-dressing and boundary-blurring itself: the Joker is a lipsticked Bowie lookalike with feminine manners but a bodybuilder’s physique, and even the Dark Knight, in one scene, disguises himself as a woman while wrestling a Nazi uber-wench called Bruno.

For better or worse, Dark Knight and the mainstream credibility it attracted also jumpstarted development on the Batman feature film, directed by Tim Burton and released in 1989. The movie was, like the graphic novel, touted as a “dark” corrective to the dayglo flamboyance of the Adam West TV series that remained the dominant popular image of Batman in the mid-1980s, and incorporated several of Miller’s revisionist tropes – the military edge to the costume, vehicle and utility belt, the modern gothic of the architecture, the terse growl of the protagonist – along with at least one shot inspired directly by the graphic novel, where Batman suspends a perp off the roof of a building. Trailers for Batman Begins (2005) suggest an even more immediate debt to Dark Knight Returns, with the Batmobile-tank and glimpses of the origin sequence apparently based on specific frames of Miller’s art.

It’s worth noting that, in this respect too, Dark Knight’s legacy involved an unexpected twist into the camp playfulness it had – or so it seemed – been explicitly intended to stamp out. Just as the homoerotic potential of Batman and Robin’s relationship, brought to light by Dr Fredric Wertham’s Seduction of the Innocent (1954) and strenuously repressed in the comic books that followed the mid-50s clampdown, had nudged back to the surface in the 1960s TV Batman’s knowing double-meanings, so Tim Burton’s relatively dark, angst-ridden and lonely vigilante gave way to Joel Schumacher’s two feature-length pantomimes, Batman Forever (1995) and Batman and Robin (1997), complete with meaningful glances between a dynamic duo in sculpted codpieces.

On a fundamental level, it may be the case that Batman, particularly when teamed with Robin, contains inherently camp and homoerotic aspects that simply cannot be permanently denied and will always edge back into the mythos; more specifically, as I suggested above and will stress again below, Miller’s Dark Knight may be more playful, less containing, more embracing of Batman’s mythos in all its facets – not just the grim brutality, but the flamboyance, the grotesques, the masquerade, the queerness – than was perceived at the time of its publication.


In authorial terms, Miller’s approach to both writing and art in Dark Knight can be traced back to his work on the Marvel comic Daredevil (1980 onwards) – where he began to introduce first-person, Chandleresque captions in place of the more conventional third-person voice-over narration, and rely on sequences of wordless visuals like a film storyboard. Dark Knight’s hard-nosed breakdown of fight scenes into wincing technical detail – a short-circuited nerve, a severed muscle, a broken nose-bridge – is rehearsed in Daredevil’s duels. Miller’s science-fiction samurai epic, Ronin (1983), brought a Japanese sensibility to his work, with even bolder use of silent panels, often building up in a sequence of rhythmic smaller frames to a huge splash page. The layout patterns of Dark Knight are all here, with an increasingly stylised use of heavy black inks: the fascination with samurai and ninja would emerge in Elektra: Assassin (1986) and the starkly contrasting lights and darks subsequently lent themselves to the expressionist modern noir of Sin City (1992).

The impact of Miller’s mid-80s techniques on superhero storytelling was both obvious and subtle, ranging from blatant lifts to unconscious influence. Miller’s frame-by-frame depiction of the Wayne parents’ murder underlies countless subsequent glimpses of the origin sequence, including those in Gotham By Gaslight and Arkham Asylum. His use of cinematic, storyboard-style pacing, and his device of dramatically foregrounding sound effects as integral to the image, were both played up further in the jazzy graphics of Howard Chaykin’s late-80s revisionism such as The Shadow (1987) and Blackhawk (1987), while the high-contrast noir of Gotham’s streetlife clearly shapes Risso’s work in the more recent 100 Bullets. The shift from third-person narrative captions to fragmented stream-of-consciousness, revealing Batman’s internal thought process, became the standard convention: see, for instance, Loeb and Lee’s best-selling, year-long saga Hush (2003).

Miller’s borrowing of manga’s dynamism, with its kinetic blurs around speeding objects, gave Anglo-American superhero art a jab in the arm; its after-effects can be detected in the graphics of Steve Yeowell’s Zenith (1988-1993) and Bryan Hitch’s The Authority (1999). More specifically, Dark Knight’s use of TV screens as miniature panels, and the spectacular breaking of this steady rhythm with heroic splash pages, are borrowed in what seems deliberate homage by one of 2004’s most critically-acclaimed titles, Morrison and Quitely’s We3.

So, Dark Knight helped shape the space/time boundaries of the DC Universe; it helped change the shape, form and readership of comic books. It cast a long shadow over the portrayal not just of Batman but of superheroes in general during subsequent decades; it helped clear the way for the still-vibrant imprint of Vertigo, and made a space for creators like Neil Gaiman and Grant Morrison to experiment with their own costumed characters. It prompted a four-feature film franchise and, in Batman Begins, inspired a fifth. Finally, it also changed the way comic book stories are told. These are the reasons I’d give if asked why The Dark Knight Returns was the most important, the most influential Batman story since 1939: I’d draw on ideas of institution, genre, author, form.

But if asked why Dark Knight is my best, I’d use a different criterion; one I think, from my experience on comic book discussion boards, I share with other fans. The best Batman story is the story with the best moments of Batman: the best memories of any single Batman story. The images that lodge in your mind, familiar now as family photographs. The lines of dialogue or narration that stick to your memory, triggered like touchstones. I can recite them now without looking, just as I can see the pictures. Cold poetry. A wolf howls. I know how he feels. Bitter lyricism. I watch them kick him around for a while. I’ve had worse times. The laconic growl. Lucky old man… This would be a fine death… welcome to hell. Lines that echo in your own life at unexpected moments, twenty years after first reading.

And the visuals, still breathtakingly vivid: the panels that come alive into a moving sequence in your head, a short film clip. The revelation when you realise the blackness in front of your eyes was fingers, and that they’re sliding away to reveal a stomach-clenching drop from the top of a skyscraper. The joyous leap of a fifty-year old man built like a brick outhouse with a chirpy, red-haired kid at his side, both soaring across the city in defiance of gravity, age, sense. The physical affection finally allowed them, this new Batman and Robin; permitted now, perversely – as man and little girl, rather than man and teenage boy – to embrace and cling to each other, needing each other. Good soldier. Good soldier. The growing trust and playfulness between them. Batman in the back of the copter, trying to command the voice-recognition. Boosters. Boosters. What… Robin coolly giving the reprogrammed software her own, hipper shorthand: Peel. And the rockets fire, taking them back to the cave. I’m not fired? she checks. Batman narrows his eyes, with a smile so rare you’d kill to earn it. You’re not fired.

This story alone is a miniature history in itself, containing other stories within it: taking us from Bruce’s childhood to middle age, giving his career a fitting end and setting a template for all origin stories to follow. It predicts, with uncanny prescience, the death of Robin in 1989 and reflects with canny self-awareness the transformation from the 1970s Batman, still in cyan blue with a yellow target on his chest, to the darker, harder figure who would dominate the 1990s. The Dark Knight Returns is the best Batman story because it is about so many of the Batman stories that went before – the grim loner of 1939, the introduction of the canary-costumed sidekick in 1940, the political propaganda of the 1940s, the street-level detection of the 70s; even, in the huge, iconic splash pages and massive sound effects, the Pop Art aesthetic of the 1960s – and, fittingly in a fictional universe where time is repeatedly reshuffled, history unwritten and reworked, lifetimes looped and origins contained in endings, it also contains, in some form or another, many of the Batman stories that came after.

The Batman comes in many guises. This man – built like a cityblock, but with the cracks showing; cold, violent but also brutally loving – is the one I’d cling to.



Works Cited


In previous work, I have explicitly located myself on the boundary between fandom and academia, an approach that in theory at least combines personal passion with the objective analysis of scholarship. The two fields are not as clearly separate as sometimes imagined, and they muddy a great deal in the middle, but nevertheless they are considered to have distinct qualities and weaknesses.

In this chapter, by contrast, I let myself cross that line and write primarily from the position of a Batman fan, albeit a Batman fan who did a PhD about him. In practice, what this means is that I haven’t followed the academic practice of quotations and footnotes. Almost all of the above was written entirely from memory: as a fan, I found I knew it all, and could tell it as readily as I’d recount family history.

However, apart from the primary texts referred to, I owe a debt of thanks to the following secondary works, some of which I looked at during the writing and some of which have, I know, lodged in my memory and shaped my perceptions of Batman. Certain of my observations above are borrowed from these authors, but I hope they will take it as a tribute that their work is forever in my head.

Mark Cotta Vaz, Tales of the Dark Knight, London: Futura (1989)
Gerard Jones and Will Jacobs, The Comic Book Heroes, California: Prima (1997)
Geoff Klock, How To Read Superhero Comics and Why, London: Continuum (2002)
Andy Medhurst, “Batman, Deviance and Camp” in Roberta E. Pearson and William Uricchio, The Many Lives of the Batman, London: Routledge (1991)

This chapter is respectfully dedicated to Will Eisner, who passed on while I was writing it.
 
 
THOR!
15:08 / 06.01.05
will read this after lunch kovacs. are you doctor batman then, y'know, from the tabloids? i remember first hearing of the batmanology guy around 89 when the first burton movie come out - would that be you n'all?
 
 
Our Lady Won't Do That Again
16:54 / 06.01.05
I liked it, just a few points:

Are you writing this for comic fans, assuming that they'll know the story? Because I can't see at any point in the first seven or eight paragraphs an explanation of what the story of 'The Dark Knight Returns' is. The Batman, to me, is a photo-album of moments... paragraph is wonderful, but I think it would be off-putting to people who don't know anything of the stories and the creators. Very near the end you casually toss in the death of the Jason Todd Robin, I think that would need to be explained.

For an essay on The Dark Knight Returns you also take a number of diversions, interesting but diversions. I would suggest you consider peeling back on them a bit, or put something in the introduction about how you're also going to look at how it relates to DC's other outputs. As it stands, the According to linear chronology... paragraph and the bit later on where you talk about Kingdom Come and The Kingdom don't really have any relevence to DKR, the same for Vertigo and The British Invasion.

The paragraphs where you talk about your favourite moments from DKR just seem a mess. Some quote-marks and indentation to explain what is you, what is you describing the action in the comic and what is dialogue would help.

Alex Ross, whose shtick is photo-realistic I would suggest perhaps something other than 'shtick' that doesn't sound so derogatory?

While the Vertigo brand can be traced clearly back to Dark Knight’s adult-oriented revisionism... It might be good if you can find a quote from one of the originators of the Vertigo brand to replace this, as most accounts I've seen tend to give more weight to Moore doing Swamp Thing and Watchmen, but hey, I'm being picky.
 
 
miss wonderstarr
23:48 / 06.01.05
Thanks "Ladies". You raise a couple of points I'd thought of myself -- with the Jason Todd Robin in particular, as I wrote that bit today. I am restricted to 4000 words, and without the works cited, this chapter is just under that. I certainly did wonder/worry if I should tell the story, and maybe I should at least include a couple of lines near the start saying what DKR is actually about.

Re. diversions, I thought, and think, that this broader context indicates DKR's lasting, wide-ranging influence. To trace that impact thru Elseworlds and Vertigo might be contentious, and the influence is certainly less direct the further out you go -- inevitably -- but personally I feel it's valid to say that DKR was a major factor in enabling those important, ongoing trends within DC.


The dialogue from DKR paragraph: you're absolutely right and in the original, the dialogue is italicised, so it does make sense and look OK. I forgot to do it when I pasted it in here.

Perhaps there was another 80s Batmanologist, and I'd be Batmanologist II, like Jason Todd? I mean, there are loads of people way more expert than me, though I think I was the only one to do a PhD in the cultural history of Batman. I'm certainly not the only person who's written academically on the topic. In 1989 I was only just into my first degree so no way was I any kind of Bat-Prof at that stage. In saying the label "Dr Batman" follows me around, I mainly meant among people I meet personally... I doubt many people spare a thought for me other than that
 
 
Benny the Ball
14:53 / 07.01.05
I think that DKR has a more resounding effect mainly because it used characters from an established historical line - Watchmen were just alterations on the Carlton (Charlton?) characters - so yeah, there seems more of a direct correlation between this and the birth of Vertigo (though less than Swamp Thing - however, can't remember the years, Batman appearing in the Swamp Thing shows that he is a iconic driving force behind most of the changes in comic books over this period - everyone knows Batman, how many people could name Nite Owl, for example). You certainly see DKR's style, and Miller's overall influence on comics today. Perhaps it is because of Miller's work as a writer and artist that there is more of a visual sense of his legacy. Moore is hardly known for his own illustration work in the same way. Anyway, DKR had a resonance that carried through the DCU in a way that Watchmen didn't. I remember the last story of Oliver Queen, Green Arrow before he was 'brought back' and thinking that it had tied itself into the DKR's future vision of the character in the penultimate chapter (only to be let down by his death), and there was always a sense that the DK batman was a way that the character was just waiting to head.

Nice piece, Kovacs.

As for you being Dr Batman II, or the Jason Todd of Dr Batmen, can we set up a phone line to see if you should live or die?
 
 
THOR!
15:05 / 07.01.05
reckon in light of what folk're saying and the undeniable swamp-thing/berger/vertigo connection you'd be better off tying DK into the general 'mature/indie' breakthrough, i.e. the birth of dark horse and the end of the big two's stranglehold.

also agree with the lady that you need a bit more of a precis of what the story's actually about, and tidy up the favourite bits bit. and perhaps draw attention to the fact that 'good soldier. good soldier' has become a funny thing to say on almost any occasion, as long as you're drunk.
 
 
madfigs #32, now with wasabi
22:36 / 07.01.05
The only problem I noticed was a bit of redundancy. You establish that DKR was published in four parts and then reissued, then mention it again three paragraphs later. Otherwise this is a great article, I think more academic works should include the phrase "hard-assed man-mountain."
 
 
miss wonderstarr
12:21 / 10.01.05
Gumbitch, the problem is I don't know enough about Berger's influence on Vertigo (beyond that she was group editor?) or any details of how important ST was in enabling Vertigo... or any institutional background to Dark Horse and the rise of the indies.

I really don't want to bluff this when most of the other material is stuff I'm sure of. Also I'm at word-count total. I could research and insert some new context on the topics you've headed up, but it would push me over the length limit.

As it's inevitable that any comic book fan is going to disagree with any article about Batman, however good it is, I might just have to swallow it and accept that a reader knowing his or her stuff is bound to find some fault or gap in my chapter.

Thanks everyone for the feedback, especially the positive of course.
 
 
Bots'wana Beast
12:52 / 10.01.05
Was your Batman book published, kovacs?

My friend has it, if so. I read bits. Was good.
 
 
Stoat-ROW ROW FIGHT THE POWAH
13:04 / 10.01.05
Excellent article, kovacs.

The "trying to second-guess what people reading the article will already know" is a bit of a tricky one- but you seem to be doing a pretty good job of walking the tighhtrope between being patronising (ie infodumping a load of stuff people already know) and alienating (ie assuming a whole lot of knowledge readers may not have). As a comics fan, but in no way an expert on Batman, I thought it read wonderfully.
 
 
miss wonderstarr
13:08 / 10.01.05
It was published as Batman Unmasked in 2000 if that is the one you mean.

I am going to add a quick summary of DKR early in the chapter: that is a really obvious lapse. To be honest, though, it's pretty hard explaining the Crisis, Elseworlds and Hypertime in a paragraph to a readership that will probably include comic book fans as well as clueless outsiders.
 
 
Grandma loves children
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17:40 / 10.01.05
Yeah, bearing in mind that in Beautiful Objects In Popular Culture your audience won't necessarily be all that Bat-literate ( the brutes ! ) a general DKR overview/plot synopsis in the style of the ( excellent I thought, ) thing you posted on here about Zenith recently would be, y'know, cool.
 
 
Billuccho!
00:30 / 11.01.05
I really liked this, though I do think it tends to meander once the Kingdom stuff peeks in... but I get what you were going for.

And, well, DKR is my favorite Batman story too. Heh.
 
 
miss wonderstarr
10:46 / 11.01.05
Thanks Flight but that Zenith synopsis was about 4000 words in itself!
 
 
miss wonderstarr
12:14 / 11.01.05
New para
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What follows, instead, are the facts and the framework: not my reasons, though they might be someone else’s, why The Dark Knight Returns is the best Batman story ever.

The Dark Knight Returns, written and pencilled by Frank Miller, inked by Klaus Janson, coloured by Lynn Varley and lettered by John Costanza, is set ten years after Batman’s retirement from crimefighting. An older, slightly creakier Wayne, unable to repress the dark totem inside himself, returns to the streets of Gotham to take apart a vicious, cyberpunk subculture called the Mutants, then face a final, fatal date with his arch-nemesis the Joker. In the last chapter, Batman does the unthinkable and bests Superman, moments before his own apparent death. All the familiar elements are there, made unfamiliar: Robin is an intelligent but rebellious girl called Carrie, the Joker is a cold Bowie-type, and the police commissioner is a hard-ass woman, Yindel, with none of Gordon’s patience for vigilantes. Superman is a godlike being: Batman is more vulnerable than ever before, but built like a tank.
 
 
Michelle Gale
16:53 / 11.01.05
unable to repress the dark totem inside himself,

...huh...
 
 
Our Lady Won't Do That Again
16:57 / 11.01.05
I think, rather than say 'ten years after he retired' or whatever, make explicit that this Batman is an old man, think Clint Eastwood in Unforgiven, yadda yadda... What you've written doesn't necessarily imply that Batman is old.
 
 
miss wonderstarr
00:51 / 12.01.05
An older, slightly creakier Wayne... more vulnerable than ever before...

"Old" is in there alright...

Clint in Unforgiven is a good reference certainly.
 
 
Bots'wana Beast
03:17 / 12.01.05
And was supposedly going to voice a radio play of the aforementioned.

Didn't, as we know.

Yeah, that's the one, k. I remember your recounting of the Denny O'Neil 'kvetching' (about the teleporter inna cave) anecdote here, and thinking 'that's familiar'.
 
 
DaveBCooper
15:17 / 13.01.05
I think that’s a very solid article, Kovacs (mind, I’m biased, as B:TDKR always ties with Year One as my favourite Bat-story).

Only bit I might take issue with would be :
"his device of dramatically foregrounding sound effects as integral to the image, were both played up further in the jazzy graphics of Howard Chaykin’s late-80s revisionism such as The Shadow (1987) and Blackhawk (1987)"
...which is true, but Chaykin was doing this with the lettering in ‘American Flagg!’ several years before Dark Knight came out, and he also used TV sets as panels in the same way, again before Dark Knight (most issues of Flagg had a recap page in the form of a TV news report).
But that’s probably more pedantry than useful comment on my part.

As an aside, I’ve always thought it was interesting that Ronin was so closely followed by Dark Knight; the former relied entirely on facial expressions and the like to convey characters’ thoughts, whilst the latter was first-person-narrative heavy. Sin City, I guess, kind of combines the two. But I digress.
 
 
miss wonderstarr
15:29 / 13.01.05
Thanks Dave...I agree I was manipulating slightly to imply that Miller had shaped Chaykin's style. I'd been planning to use American Flagg! as my example, but realised it wouldn't work at all, and had to substitute Blackhawk/The Shadow. In some ways, perhaps Chaykin actually influenced Miller... however, Blackhawk "Blood and Iron" does include a very Milleresque silent, storyboard-style dream sequence.

The editor of the book in question has got back to me and among several queries, asks for more of a sense that there's a comic fan consensus that DKR is the best Bat-book -- not just that it's my "favourite", but that most fans would agree it's the best -- and for some idea of the quality criteria fans use to assess DKR as the best.

I have replied but I'd like to run the basic ideas in my response by anyone here who is prepared to give me feedback on them:

-- I am not at all convinced that DKR is considered the best Batman story by a majority of comic fans: I'm not at all sure there is a consensus. I know I bitched at Laimling about this, on the "All-Star" thread, but his posts demonstrated that some people consider Miller's writing embarrassingly bad.

-- I don't think we can meaningfully say there is an absolute best Batman story -- even if I'm picking my best, I have to sacrifice several other stories that are close to my heart, and that's difficult to me. I wouldn't say DKR is the absolute ultimate Batman story, FACT, by any means. In some ways it's not even my favourite, but if I was forced to pick one single title it would be that one.

-- I do think that the criteria of celebrating "great pop moments" in a comic is something other fans (on here at least) share. In the discussions of new comics like We3 and JLA Classified, much of the enjoyment seems to centre around a list of wonderful images or lines of dialogue. So I am suggesting that to pick out a story as "best" because it contains the most resonant, pefect moments is a certain kind of fan approach.

Does anyone agree with those points?
 
 
miss wonderstarr
15:33 / 13.01.05
As another great help to me, if you do think Dark Knight Returns is "the best Batman story ever", what reasons would you give for that? Would they be anything like the same as mine?
 
 
Bots'wana Beast
15:44 / 13.01.05
You could use the oft-quoted example that both it and Watchmen changed comics Forever (!) in the great year of upheaval, 1986.

I do think that a very large portion of casual Bat-fans, such as myself, consider Miller's work definitive - as I said in the other thread I think I prefer DK2 (though more as a JLA book) and Year One.

You could further emphasise how completely DKR and Yr. One have set the tone for Batman for the last 19 years too.
 
 
Grandma loves children
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16:27 / 13.01.05
Well I think if you took a straw poll of great Batman stories DKR would have to be odds-on to top it, just because very little else would appear to have that iconic, stand-alone quality. At least there's Arkham Asylum, Batman Year One and The Killing Joke, possibly, and apart from those I can't think of anything, although having not read a Batman comic since either Year One or Arkham Asylum, whichever came later, there's every possible chance that there's something I'm missing.

I'm not sure how far the objections to Miller's writing would apply here really - It was by and large being attacked as a body of work as a whole, ( repetition of same old themes etc, ) rather than how it played out
specifically in the context of Dark Knight, and also, while a number of other writers were cited as superior, I'm not sure if anyone mentioned a particular Batman writer they felt had done better, so in that sense the criticisms ( which I don't, admittedly, really see myself, ) would be a bit by-the-by.

And there's clearly a fairly strong argument for DKR as the *ultimate* Bat-story, if only because in terms of it's general pop cultural impact, while it's no doubt a long way behind the movies, the Sixties TV show and even quite possibly the recent cartoons, DKR still has to be streets ahead of the competition as a Batman series that's lodged itself in the broader public imagination, and also in terms of it's influence on the Bat-mythos thereafter - even as someone who loathed DKR with a burning passion, I think you'd be hard-pushed to deny that really.
 
 
miss wonderstarr
17:06 / 13.01.05
As an argument against DKR's iconic status, though, it lacks a number of elements that to me are vital parts of the mythos: Batman's love-hate relationship with Catwoman, for instance, and the specifically male relationship he had with Dick Grayson, whether as the young Robin, the Teen Wonder or as Nightwing.

The Bat-tank is cool but it lacks the sleek streamlining of any other traditional Batmobile, which DKR implies never existed (Dick just used the silly name Batmobile to describe the tank all along, as I understand it).

There's none of the ambiguous relationship between official law and rough justice that was inherent in Batman's engagements with Gordon.

There's no Riddler, Penguin, Clayface... Billy Berserk, who with his gang dominates the first two books as lead villain, doesn't really match up to any of the classic antagonists in terms of iconic status.

There's no Wayne as charming socialite, squiring beautiful women. There's no Wayne as inventor and philanthropist. There's no Matches Malone.

And so on. Several reasons off the top of my (hungover) head as to why DKR is actually lacking key elements in the Batman mythos -- elements that give me a lot of satisfaction when they're explored in other stories.

So, is the "best" Batman story possibly one that covers all the bases? I felt Hush tried to do that, in fact, and felt kind of far-fetched in its episodic structure... in fact, all Loeb's Batman epics seem to try to visit one big guest star every episode.

Maybe it's not just impossible to pick a best Batman -- but there isn't any fan consensus on how you'd do the picking, either. Is it great moments? is it a best-of, including all the classic elements? is it institutional, generic importance, the extent to which it shaped everything that went afterward?
 
 
Our Lady Won't Do That Again
17:30 / 13.01.05
Tell 'em that fans consider it an important, rather than favourite text...
 
 
THOR!
17:41 / 13.01.05
it's comics innit? fanfaves are going to be based on how old they were when they first read it and what the weather was like that day and who their favourite artist is.

for me, based on the above, you've still got to go for dk/miller even though i think year one is a superior, more 'adult' read. also, there's a sizeable handful of wein/ englehart/o'neil issues that, in terms of personal fanboy-joy, i'd happily compare either of them to.
 
 
Benny the Ball
18:05 / 13.01.05
DKR is often quoted as the most important in terms of setting the tone for comics at a time when they became media important for most people in the late 20th cent generation, as it was a complete tale, which delt very heavily, through first person narrative, with Batman's motives in a way that the regular books hadn't done for as long as I had known them. It also established a blueprint for gotham city which hadn't really been done before.
 
 
Grandma loves children
(prev. Old dear. Gin. Problems)
18:34 / 13.01.05
It lacks a number of elements that to me are vital parts of the mythos

I don't know... Aren't a lot of the things you mention at least brought up in passing, Wayne the ex-man about town drinking alone while being sniped at by Alfred, the fact that he " hasn't spoken to Dick in seven years, you know that, " the scene at Kyle Escorts and so on ? Realistically, Miller was never going to be able to get everything in, and wouldn't the inclusion of essentially jokey characters like The Penguin have wrecked the tone he was going for in any case ? Too many superannuated ex-villains, and the series might have started to resemble a pounch-up at a tea dance...

Also, the ambiguous relationship between official law and rough justice is a major theme in DKR surely, whether it's in Wayne's interaction with Commish Yindel, with the Joker or with Superman, or even in all the medja punditry going on in the background ?
 
 
miss wonderstarr
20:54 / 13.01.05
That's a very fair point, Flight, and I don't genuinely think Miller should have shoehorned in anymore. As my conclusion suggested, I feel DKR does manage to serve as a kind of encyclopaedia of the Bat-mythos even if the familiar elements are often twisted and disguised. Ironic that a book distancing itself from the contemporary continuity in its time-lapse and deliberate revisionism both pays homage to so much of that continuity (and previous, pre-Crisis material) and, crucially, shapes so much mainstream continuity of the next 20-odd years.

But I'm repeating myself there, less coherently.

Tell 'em that fans consider it an important, rather than favourite text...

This would be a really key argument. You could personally dislike DKR and still respect its importance. So it could be revered by Batman fans for what it enabled, what it led to, what it inspired and influenced, rather than in itself.

But I'm still not sure as to whether there's any consensus on how a "best Batman comic" would be judged, let alone what the result would be.

If that's the case, fine because I will make that point in the chapter. The editor, who is no fool and a fan himself (albeit of Doctor Who) was of the opinion that there would be fan consensus. My view is that, personally, DKR would be the single title I'd pick if I absolutely had to, because of subjective reasons, but while I could make objective claims for its "importance", there is no way I could prove it was the "best".
 
 
Boboss
20:54 / 13.01.05
Kovacs, I'm far from convinced that the Batmobile always looked like a tank, Batman talks about converting it during some particularly nasty riots, after all.
 
 
Boboss
20:57 / 13.01.05
And surely Bruce's comment about the name just points to the absurdity of calling anything a Batmobile.
 
 
Grandma loves children
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22:39 / 13.01.05
I agree though, no Matches Mallone is a major failing.
 
 
miss wonderstarr
22:42 / 13.01.05
True, you could see it that way -- that it was originally the car we know, and that it was modified out of recognition. I was reading this line

The Batmobile -- that's what you called it, Dick. Kind of name a kid would come up with

as implying that "Batmobile" was always just Robin's baby name for this f*ck-off mother of a vehicle.

If your theory's correct, Batman still modified the car into a tank 15 years ago, five years before his retirement. So this Bat-tank was the "Batmobile" during what we would call current continuity.
 
 
Uncle Batman
23:06 / 13.01.05
But surely the impact of the first appearance of this overhauled 'Batmobile' would be lessened if it had always been a tank-thing. This is the Batmobile that fits the nightmarish vision of DK, but I bet Miller would say that originally it was the sleek drag-racer Batmobile. If we take 'Year One' and DKR as existing in the same continuity (and the many parallels in the two texts suggest this) then there's actual visual evidence of it.
 
  

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