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The Occult and the New World Order

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11:11 / 07.05.04

,i>Do you really think that 9-11 and that 911 days after 9-11 was the Spanish Train Attack are somehow not linked to Numerological Codes?

Actually, yeah - I don't think there linked by numerology. Ideology yeah, numerology, no. I cannot believe that anybody involved in something as complex, dangerous, evil and fucking insane as butchering 175 innocent people is going to sit around waitng until the correct fucking day comes up. I'm happy to regard it as a coincidence. You know why? Because I cannot come up with one fucking credible reason why anyone on Earth would want to encode secret messages into atrocity dates. Why are they doing this Fetch, do you think? So the Enlightened Ones like yourself can pick apart their secret messages and warn us all? I've read David Icke's claim that 9-11 also refered to the US phone system's emergency no. - I regard this as a similar sort of bullshit, and proof that if you're in a paranoid mindset (as you are) any incoming signal becomes significant and you can trick yourself into believing anything.

11:28 / 07.05.04

And Fetch? You have absolutely no credibilty whatsoever. I haven't forgotten the Nietchze = Jew thing earlier upthread. Still waiting in vain for a reference for this astonishing factlet, which is going to turn the world of Nietchze Studies on it's head.

I know you have claimed to have supplied material we can all bone up on in your first few posts. Well, why should I when you are so obviously wrong on something like like the this simple fact - what's so hard about slapping up a few links? Or maybe you're worried that we won't draw the same conclusions as you? (as a few other people seem to).

STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK

11:58 / 07.05.04

Now calm down, Illmatic...
Remember, we're in the hazy world of the conspiracy.
In this world, Nietzsche WAS a Jew. Primo Levi, interestingly enough, was a Nazi. And Hitler built the pyramids.

Have I missed anything?

Oh yeah. Space stuff. There was space stuff too. Which is, of course, why JFK got popped. By Elvis. Who later drove Princess Di into a wall in Paris.

Seriously. It's all in Mel Gibson's new movie. He's hoping for the Oliver Stone market. Only sillier.

_Boboss
(prev. THOR!)

14:25 / 07.05.04

what i find interesting is, 'true' or not (not) the pofz are currently taken very seriously by a large number of the world's arabic population. they look at the world around them and see pofz as a good fit for why things should be the way they are. the cart and the horse may be falling over each other on their way down the hill, but a lot of people still feel the pofz are a good map for the lands they currently travel.

and clearly the czar's boys, with their own reasons for the who and the why, were eerily close with the how where and when. the timelessness of paranoia? good historical foresight extrapolated from observing the ascendance of industrialised capital? how come the Con always looks the same from the outside, regardless of who's apparently in there pulling the strings?

Phex: Dorset Doom

14:31 / 07.05.04

Fetch, as regards to your credibility: ask any journalist and they'll tell you that once a source on any particular matter lies or gives bad information, they lose any credibility they might have had. Within your first post you posited, as Illmatic points out, that Nietzche was Jewish and that the Earth is hollow and inhabited by super-people. The links you have been kind enough to post suffer from the same problem; the CEC puts you only a few clicks away from Lyndon LaRouche's bizarre (but strangely familiar

) rant about the 'Pro-Satanic Pokemon Cult'.
Also in our top ten credibility damaging count-down are:
Self-aggrandisement: "I dare say there are few as focused on the Craft as I" "My message is far more complex and layered than some "anti-Semitic" inspired crap line of logic. It always has been and will remain so."
and
Hissy-fits: "Yeah right. You wouldnt recognise it in use if it bit your lips off and tied your toungue" "I cant (sic) be so stupid and naive if I tried" "About all you have impressed me with is that you are an ignorant and judgemental fool who attacks people based on your own flawed perceptions"

To clear this all up and correct any mistakes we may have made please answer:

-What leads you to conclude that Nietzche was Jewish?
-Do you believe the Earth is hollow or were you just illustrating what the Synarchists and other assorted fruitloops believe?
-What do you understand by the terms 'Noahdism', 'El Worship' and 'Hyper Jehovian'?
-Why does Lyndon LaRouche's name keep popping up in connection with this thread?
-Seeing as much of this thread revolves around accusations of anti-semitism, clear up once and for all your views on the Jewish people (I say 'people' because opposition to Israeli policies, even belief in a Jewish-controlled 'New World Order' aren't anti-semitic in of themselves.)
Finally, please can we get some links to the topics you're discussing so we're able to better understand what you're saying. You're right, I can't lecture you on Jewish Mysticism and as far as I know a Dreidel is just a little clay toy to spin around at Hannukah. If your message is really so complex and layered then at least let us get some insight into it.

STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK

14:47 / 07.05.04

One more thing about the Protocols.

HOW plausible is it that an aeons-old conspiracy would have its plan for world domination written down and "accidentally" found?

Or even written down in the first place?

Like, this is the shit you've been born to all your life... you're gonna need a fucking reference every time you plan to do something?

In which case, it's a pretty shit conspiracy. (Read Carroll's Psybermagick- unfortunately my copy was stolen so I can't quote directly- for a logical reason why an overarching conspiracy is untenable.)

Seriously, have YOU read the Protocols? Cos to give them the credence you are, I get the impression you haven't. (And before you ask, yes, I have, and a long time before reading this thread).

As I said before, unconvincing. Even the best screenwriter in the world couldn't get a movie villain to make that even plausible.

Next up: Holocaust denial, and how it might be a magickal laugh.

15:27 / 07.05.04

Okay people, researches elsewhere on the web bring up posts to other boards by The Fetch, which clearly express homophobia, anti-semitism and holocaust denial. The Fetch appears to be toning down his "true" opinions for his "audience" on Barbelith. I don't think Barbelith in any way wants to be associated with advancement of Fetch's "message" and furthermore, looking at these other boards shows that Fetch doesn't appear to change his opinions in any way when challenged, and "debates" with him rapidly degenerate into "troll wars" scenarios we're all too familar with. I will moderate for this thread to be locked and I've forwarded Tom a "compliation" of statements made elsewhere by The Fetch, so he can decide if we want him as a member.

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